For Those About to Pod, We Salute You - Episode 69

[00:00:25] Speaker A: Well, hello, everyone, and welcome to episode 69 of the rock podcast. For those about to pause, we salute you. On this episode, we have latest news. We have three albums to review, a new rock on the block. We also have some hidden gems. And this episode, we have the letter v. Good luck us mad. But here he is, back in the saddle and having put his toys away in the attic. Here he is, my co host, Mister Matt Rogers. See what I did there? [00:01:02] Speaker B: I did. Yes, yes. Hello. I did say that. Brian. Yeah, hello. How you doing? [00:01:06] Speaker A: I'm good. And how are you? Because you're very. You're always very quick to go. Yeah. Yes. Thanks, Brian. Thanks for asking. [00:01:15] Speaker B: Oh, yes. God, it took me completely by surprise there. Yes, I'm very well, thank you. I'm just. I was just reflecting on the way you said podcast. [00:01:24] Speaker A: Podcast. [00:01:25] Speaker B: It reminded me of when. When Christopher Walken introduced the Foo Fighters on Sassy Night Live, I think it was. And he said. He said to Dave Grohl, what? Where's the emphasis Foo of Fighters? And Dave Grohl said, there really isn't an emphasis on any of the words in Foo Fighters, but Christopher Walken being Christopher Walken, when he got. Came to introduce the Foo Fighters, he said, ladies and gentlemen, foo fighters. [00:01:59] Speaker A: Foo fighters. [00:02:01] Speaker B: Exactly like a podcast. Yes. Yeah, I did see what you did there. Yeah, that's very good. That was very. You've obviously given this some thought. [00:02:12] Speaker A: Well, pre production was a long meeting, wasn't it? [00:02:15] Speaker B: Pre production was a very long meeting, actually. Yeah, yeah. 3 hours of pre production. Absolutely exhausted. Yeah. Aerosmith. Yeah. Start there in the news. So, yes, Aerosmith have made a statement saying that they basically have stopped touring. I think they kind of stopped. Made that announcement mid tour. They were never quite sure with Aerosmith because they kind of stop and start their tours. But. And I was supposed to do farewell tour a couple of years ago, weren't they? But, yeah. Due to Stephen Tyler's ongoing vocal issues, he's got a fractured larynx. [00:02:56] Speaker A: Yes. [00:02:57] Speaker B: I mean, that sounds very painful. Whenever we talk about ailments, like whether it be Richie Faulkner or whoever, very painful. Mind you, everything sounds painful to me. A fractured larynx. Geez. I mean, you probably know more about that than I do what you've done, because you don't. Because you've done some research. What does that mean? Basically, he's been told you can't sing anymore. [00:03:24] Speaker A: That's very much. Yeah. And the fact that it's. The medical team has come out and said he has permanent vocal cords damage. [00:03:34] Speaker B: Wow. [00:03:34] Speaker A: So it sounds like, you know, with the. Suppose maybe some of the similarities with what happened with John Bon Jovi, it's, you know, his voice was knackered and they were able to. To do the plastic placement of stuff in his, his vocal cords or whatever. But I suppose Steven Tyler's 76, Matt, so he's kind of going good innings. Do you know what? Let's just call it a day. And do you know what? I'm. I applaud them for what they've done because they're one of those bands who, you know, they've. They've, you know, in the early eighties, they were kind of a bit lost at sea, and then when they came back with permanent vacation. Yeah. And, and the whole MTV stuff, loving an elevator. Genie's got a, you know, they went through the back end of the eighties and for those people who were lucky enough to go to Donington, 1990, I think a lot of people said that Aerosmith blew whites neck away. They just were. They were unbelievable. So to go out classy and just say, you know, we're a band of brothers, one of our guys is not able to do it, then we're just gonna call it. I think that's. There's a bit of touch of class about Aerosmith doing that. [00:04:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, indeed. Yeah. I mean, as we've said many times, they've left a great legacy. [00:05:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:02] Speaker B: Amazing albums, as you say. They had a weird period, didn't they? When Steve keeps calling him Steve Perry. When Joe Perry left his brother, of course, and Joe Perry left. We'll come on to journey. [00:05:15] Speaker A: We'll get on to journey. [00:05:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Although not with Steve or Joe Perry. Yeah, I remember when. I remember when Steve. I've done it again. I remember when Joe Perry left. Yeah, they went through a weird little phase, didn't they? But you're right. I mean, they bounced back. I've seen them a few times. Have you seen Aerosmith? [00:05:31] Speaker A: I've never seen Aerosmith. It'll be a regret of mine that I never got a chance to see them. [00:05:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw them, I think, on that 1987 tour, whatever the album was. Pump, I guess. [00:05:43] Speaker A: Yeah, it would have been pump. [00:05:44] Speaker B: One of those. I saw them to download a couple of years ago. That was good. I've never stayed to the confession, everyone. I've never. Apart from that 87 gig, I never stayed to the end of an aerospace gig. And there are good reasons. One, Hyde park in about 2007, it was throwing it down with rain. Stayed for about an hour. Download 2017, it was freezing, and we all stand there in our colored t shirts and shorts, left after about an hour. And then was the other time. Oh, London. [00:06:14] Speaker A: London calling. Yeah, London calling. [00:06:16] Speaker B: Something like that. [00:06:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:18] Speaker B: Had to leave because we were too drunk and we had to go, my wife and I. So, I mean, nevertheless, they did put a great show. Yes. Sad news indeed. But you never know. You touched upon it in our lengthy pre production meeting that maybe his threat will get better and maybe they can do some albums. But 76, bit like Brian Johnson. Come on. And thanks, guys. You know, you can go on permanent vacation now. It's fine. [00:06:48] Speaker A: There you go. [00:06:50] Speaker B: Anyway, what's next? [00:06:54] Speaker A: Let's stay with. Let's stay with mighty us. Rock accent let's go into journey. All is not well in camp journey at this. At the moment. We thought, Matt, that all of the legal shenanigans and suing and counter suing between Jonathan Cain and Neil Shawn had all been put to bed. They're currently touring the US with doing a stadium tour with Def Leppard. And it's come out that Jonathan Cain has sued Neil Sean because Neil Sean is. Again, we're reading this in the press, so we'll use the word allegedly that neo Sean continues to go over the $1,500 limits on hotel rooms and other additional expenses, Matt, in terms of what was agreed. So basically, Jonathan, I think, is suing Neil to sort of put his credit card back in the pocket so that they're not just blowing everything on expenses. And so this is all happening. There's, I think Dean Castronova has sat out a show and the drum tech has had to sit in on the show. So there's potentially some issues around drummers. And then the good old UK and Ireland becomes. We get then the announcement that says, oh, journey have cancelled their upcoming UK and Ireland tour, which is a real shame. [00:08:42] Speaker B: Yeah. So I'm glad you added some context to that, because when I saw the announcement and having looked into getting journey tickets when they came out a few months ago, they were very expensive. [00:08:54] Speaker A: Yes. [00:08:55] Speaker B: I mean, I would pay that if Steve Perry rejoined, as opposed to his brother Joe. But 140 pounds, which is, I don't know, $160 for our us listeners, that's quite a lot of money. And I thought it was due to bad ticket sales to be too fair, which it may well be, could well be, or it might be just too much legal ranking, but they haven't. They haven't cut their. As you, as you were saying, they're out on a tour with, I think it's Steve Miller and with Dev Leopard. [00:09:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:35] Speaker B: That's a good bill, isn't it? [00:09:36] Speaker A: Oh, it's fabulous. [00:09:38] Speaker B: I think there might be someone else on the bid as well. And I think they've still got japanese tour dates which are currently on set, still on sale. So they've cancelled the UK, not Japan. And obviously they haven't kind of pulled out halfway through the us tour, so it may well be ticket sales. I don't know. I mean, the thing is, when, as we touched on many times when bands come to the UK, they need to cover their costs, make some money, blah, blah, blah. And if they're not doing it well, you know, have to kind of have second thoughts. [00:10:09] Speaker A: And the last few times, Matt, the last few times at journey have come across any time that I've seen journey in the UK, they, you know, famously, they. They toured with Whitesnake and Thunder, came out of retirement. Yeah. And were the opening band. Now, that bill was just fantastic. Thunder were great. I saw them in another three, three band bill, which was journey, foreigner and sticks. So I think when you package it all up and you put like three, three great bands, it seemed to be in the mid two thousands where, particularly american bands, when they were coming to the UK to help cover their costs and drive up sales, you would have good packages put together. And I'm not, you know, I don't know what the package was like for journey coming across, but you would. You would. You would expect Matt for 140 quid or whatever it was that journey would have been coming with a couple of other, you know, mediums. I know, big hitting bands, and maybe the build just wasn't right for ticket buyers. [00:11:27] Speaker B: Yeah, well, yeah, possibly. Cheap trick were the only guest on the tour in the UK, which, you know, they're a good banner in their own right, but whether. Whether they are quite the draw that they once were, I wouldn't. [00:11:43] Speaker A: Cheap check her. Cheap trick are always. You know, they're. They're great value. I've seen them a few times. You know, I saw them supporting Def Leppard. Yeah. And I. And I also saw them supporting deep purple. So they're all. They're always part of a good package, but they're usually a few bands in the bell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:12:06] Speaker B: Well, I mean, when you see cheap trick, to be fair, you do get, you know, the benefit of Rick Nielsen's huge collection of pics being thrown out into the audience and also the odd album that he tosses out. I remember one gig and he threw out an album and I think he took someone's head off. So you do get. You got to make sure your insurance is up to date, but also you might get a freebie into the bargain. [00:12:32] Speaker A: I think I actually have a Rick Nielsen plectrum. I was quite surprised when I went to see deep purple and they were supporting like, rick's mic stand was just absolutely just. It was just top to bottom, just full of plectrums. He was just pinging them, you know, he was hardly playing. [00:12:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So annoying when players play. I know that I've ever caught a pick, by the way, or got anywhere near it. But when you see players playing with, you know, just their fingers or just one pick. No, no. And they just put it in a pocket at the end and say, see. Oh, great, thanks. We'll come on to pop and rock memorabilia at some point. Pop. Why does it. I'm getting confused with sister podcast. [00:13:15] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:13:16] Speaker B: Throws out a pop is literally talking. Going back to the journey story for a minute. It never happened to us, that whole suing each other because we haven't got a budget. Right. We still have the 69 episodes. We still haven't got a budget. I don't know where we go to get a budget, by the way. I don't know who we applied to, but we should get a government grant. [00:13:36] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:13:36] Speaker B: I mean, the irish, the irish government talks about last time in the context of Rory Gallagher's guitar. They got some money. Why don't you have a word with what's his name? The Harshok. [00:13:49] Speaker A: T shock. [00:13:50] Speaker B: T shock. Why don't you have a word? [00:13:55] Speaker A: The t shirt of Ireland. [00:13:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Why don't we have a word with him and see if he can cough up some. Anyway, now let's get off that subject. [00:14:02] Speaker A: You wanted to mention Rick Nielsen. [00:14:04] Speaker B: I did, actually, in a lighter vein. So Rick Nilsson, famously the guitarist in cheap trick and a quite eccentric character, to put it mildly. So he has been honored. I think it's an honor he has got. And people would have seen this in the news, I would have thought he has had in his honour or to be honored, a 62 foot. 62 foot tall guitar sculpture in, outside the hard Rock casino in Rockford, Illinois. [00:14:42] Speaker A: Fabulous. [00:14:43] Speaker B: Which is not. He's not actually from there. He's from 77 miles down the road, apparently. But that said, it's. It's quite something. It will be. It'll be based on his iconic checkerboard, Hamer, stat. Is that how you pronounce the guitar? [00:15:02] Speaker A: Yes, Hamer. Well done. [00:15:04] Speaker B: And I know, I know you'd know because you know a little bit about guitars. Not much. [00:15:07] Speaker A: Not much. [00:15:09] Speaker B: A little bit. And. Which is nice. But he was born. It's like me getting a, like. I don't know. I mean, if I could play the guitar half decently, having guitar in Birmingham and, you know, me being here, you know. Oh, great. I'll go and see it when I. It's up there. It's in Birmingham. [00:15:32] Speaker A: Hi. [00:15:32] Speaker B: I picked that around. I'm not quite sure. Birmingham, 77 mph. But you get the general idea. He was born in Elmhurst, Illinois. And they're all from Illinois, apparently, which is quite. So. It's quite nice. It'll be unveiled on the 20 August. So if you're in Rockford, Illinois on the 29 August, as opposed to being at Stone Dead festival that week, you will see it. And there's going to be performances there by Joan Jett and the Black Hearts, Brad Paisley and many more. Yeah. [00:16:03] Speaker A: Great guitar player, Brad Paisley. [00:16:05] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. I don't know. I'm nodding. I've never heard of him. I thought it said. I thought it said Bob Daisley. I put my glasses on and it said Brad Paisley. Who's Brad Paisley? [00:16:17] Speaker A: Brad Paisley. Oh, I see. You're doing this just to check to see that. I know. So Brad Paisley is an amazing guitar player. He's in that kind of new country, you know, sort of Keith Urban, but famously Brad Paisley on social media now and again. He'll rock up a set. So there's some great YouTube footage of Brad playing the likes of, you know, Panama or Jump by Van Halen. And then when it comes to the guitar solo, he wheels. So he, he famously plays a Fender Fender telecaster in the kind of country style. But he's a, he's a fabulous guitar player. Really, really good player. I like him. [00:17:01] Speaker B: Good. Excellent. [00:17:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:05] Speaker B: And finally, for me now, we've occasionally mentioned Tony Iommi on this podcast, and the great man, if you remember, a few years ago, we talked about his cologne that came out. [00:17:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Then we went and priced it. [00:17:30] Speaker B: I know his cologne, which was called Scent of Dark. [00:17:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:35] Speaker B: And he's got another one out. [00:17:38] Speaker A: Okay. [00:17:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:40] Speaker A: From the hosts of Aomei. [00:17:42] Speaker B: Exactly. Well, actually, it's made in conjunction with an italian company called, I think I'm pronouncing this correctly, Zhezhov. [00:17:51] Speaker A: Okay. [00:17:52] Speaker B: Sorry about that. Anyway, and it's called deified, which is a very kind of black sabbathy Tony Iommi thing to say, or to call it, rather. And I resisted the temptation to do my Tony Iommi impersonation, of course, as you can tell, because there's really no need. But apparently goes for it when he goes for it. So accompanying this new eau de parfum, this new cologne is a song called Deified. So we look forward to that. Produced by me and his long standing collaborator, Mike Exeter. That's a very rock and roll name, isn't it, Mike Exeter. [00:18:36] Speaker A: Well, it could be Mike Plymouth or Mike Surrey. You know, it's true, Lisa. You could bring. You could. You could shorten it down to Mike X. [00:18:47] Speaker B: That's true, actually. Yeah. Anyway, but he hasn't. He just causes a Mike egg stuff. Anyway, that was the latest Iommi news without an impersonation for a change. [00:18:58] Speaker A: Well done, you. Well done, you. And the only thing I'll finish off with on the news will be finally, one of the most iconic charity concerts for many people. It was the inaugural sort of precursor to live aid. So it's known as the concert for Bangladesh that George Harrison put together in 1971. And I think there was. It was. It was in response to UNIcEF and, you know, challenges that were going on in Bangladesh at the time. So George got together with a few of his mates, Ringo, Eric Clapton, Bob Dylan, Leon Russell, and they had two nights in Madison Square Gardens. And the album's been released and the dvd's come out many, many years ago, but it's never had streaming services. So recently, in the last few weeks, the concert for Bangladesh has come on to streaming. And I'm fortunate enough that my aunt gave me. I have an original copy of the three. I've got the box sets from the seventies, so it's a special album for me. I love it. But the interesting story about the concert for Bangladesh was effectively, George took all of his me it's and said, let's do the concert. But then it got stuck in tax and because it was three albums, the british government wouldn't give them the VAT back. And all of the different artists were signed to different record labels. So it took ages for the album to come out to generate the money. So George went through years of legal wranglings with record companies and lawyers, etcetera, but they finally got it sorted. But what George did, whenever Bob Geldof and Major and the Live Aid trust were kicking off Band Aid and then laterally the live Aid concerts, George advised Bob around. Here's the learnings that we had from the concert of Bangladesh. If you want to make sure that the money goes to the ethiopian appeal, do this stuff and not this. So it's quite an iconic concert and, you know, anybody who's, you know, got streaming services, you will be able to. And I think they're going to be streaming the film as well, too. So big, this episode. That's a big thing for me. So we'll maybe stick some tracks from concert of Bangladesh on the playlist, mate. [00:21:54] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, we'll do it. [00:21:55] Speaker A: That's the news. [00:21:59] Speaker B: So, Brian, that brings us to new rock of the block. Yes, we're in. Yes, we're in. I'm telling you. I'm not telling you. I'm telling. I mean, listen now. Is it 1415? [00:22:11] Speaker A: 1415, maybe. [00:22:13] Speaker B: It's been 14 for a while. [00:22:14] Speaker A: We've got a rugby team now. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Almost no subs. We've got a rugby league team. [00:22:20] Speaker A: Yes. [00:22:21] Speaker B: And one sub. We digress. Yes. Three albums. Bye. Various artists this week, Scarlet Rebels by Watercool and a little band called Deep Purple. [00:22:32] Speaker A: Yes. [00:22:32] Speaker B: So let's go with. Should we start with Scarlet Rebels? Bry? [00:22:38] Speaker A: I think we can do the new. [00:22:40] Speaker B: Album where the Colors meet. What did you think of Wales finest, Scarlet Rebels? [00:22:50] Speaker A: I was taken back to 1988, Matthew. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:22:57] Speaker A: I was taken back. First of all, the tracks that have been released on so far that we've heard, it's a lot of the bands. A lot of the new bands that we've been listening to recently have had a southern rock sort of feel to it. You know, we talked about the karma effect and these wicked rivers, and this is just honest to God, old fashioned classic rock. It's just. It's great singing. Wayne Doyle, the singer, does a phenomenal job on the production on the tracks that we've heard. But when I listened to it, it just took me back to between 1988 and 1990, I was hearing in Wayne's voice, you remember that. That sort of Bob cattley Magnum or going la, you know, that goodnight, La. It was just. It was. It's. It's kind of Bon Jovi, Magnum. Even a little touch of U two in there. It was just fantastic. The lead off track, secret drug, has got an intro that sounds very much reminiscent of won't get fooled again. But the songwriting, you know, let me in. It's just straight ahead rock and roll. And the thing I could just. The best way I could describe how the strength of these tracks. If Bon Jovi had. Had put out these tracks, matt, I think it would have. It probably would have been received better than the current Bon Jovi album. I think the songwriting and the production is just reminiscent of that New Jersey ish, late eighties classic rock. I can't. It just knocked me out in terms of how great it was the guitar solo and, yeah, I was really surprised. But I like Scarlet. I'm putting an asterisk there. We've seen them. I've seen them supporting Smith Kotzen and they were fantastic. And I've seen them at Steelhouse and they put on a great show. They're great band and they always chart well. You know, top ten. Top ten albums. And I think this album's just. They're just getting better and better as a band, so. I know, I know. I get all. We usually get quite enthusiastic when I listen to new music, but I thought it was great. [00:25:30] Speaker B: How about you? No, same, same, yeah. I mean, I think their songwriting is taken a step forward. This is their third studio album following on show your colors in 2019 is see through Blue in 2022, which I think we might have reviewed or as a hidden gem. Yeah, yeah, they are. They have taken a step forward. They're headlined in the UK or tour in the UK as headliners. I'm going to go and see them in London with special guest, the hot one two. It's a UK tour, bry, you'd be pleased to hear. [00:26:02] Speaker A: Oh, that's good. That's good. They're not that big yet that they can. They can ignore the rest of the country. [00:26:07] Speaker B: No, that's right. And I imagine their tickets are not quite as expensive as journeys, so, yeah, I would urge everyone to go and see them. I actually saw them at. They were on a made of stone a few weeks ago, actually. I went to. They were great. Very mature. Got brilliant guitarist in Chris Jones, Cjdev, as you say, wayne Doyle. He's now playing rhythm guitar as well as singing. I'm just interested in your references, because when I listened to her, I heard a bit more, I guess. Sure, it's classic rock, but I had a bit of manic street preachers in his vocal style, maybe. I'm thinking they're both Welsh. I don't know whether they're saying part of Welsh, but I thought maybe a bit of James Dean Bradfield in the sort of singing style. [00:26:52] Speaker A: I wouldn't disagree with that. [00:26:54] Speaker B: But, yeah, good. I mean, great piece of work, as you say. Good songwriting. My favorite song is a song called Grace, which has got beautiful lyrics. There's been so many good songs. There's so many good albums this year. It's great. And, as you say, secret drugs. Good. They can't help themselves with their political kind of shots at. Well, the english government. Or british government, as was in streets of fire. [00:27:23] Speaker A: Streets of fire, yeah, yeah. [00:27:24] Speaker B: But now I think it's a great, solid album. I urge everyone to go, and I urge everyone to go this in the UK, to go and see them on this tour, because they're really well worth seeing. Hot ones who are playing with them are brilliant live, uh, tons of energy and brilliant songs. So, I mean, what a double bill that is. Um. But, yeah, the album. Yeah, really good. Really good. Um. Yeah, I mean, I think it might go. They went. I think the last album went top ten or top 20. So, um. Very much in that sort of modern production style. This production style reminded me a bit of, um. Um. Uh. What's your man's, um. My mind's. My man's got blank. Wayward sons. Reminded me of those. Wayward sons. [00:28:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:11] Speaker B: Production style. I'll be interested to know if it's the same product producer or maybe Toby Jepsen at hand in both. But, yeah. Good album. Yeah. Check it out. Where the colors meet. Scarlet Rebels. So where should we go next, Brian? [00:28:27] Speaker A: We will go to Bywater call Matthew. [00:28:29] Speaker B: Hmm. Yes, indeed. Bywater call another band from Ontario, Canada. One of my favorite parts of the world, even though I've only been there once. And do you want to go? I'll go first. [00:28:46] Speaker A: I think you should go first in this one. [00:28:49] Speaker B: So I think everyone should buy this album. I loved it from the minute I put it on. And I'm not. I'm not a great one for kind of Americana. I've had a sign to become more of an Americana fan as I listen to these albums, the likes of the Commoners and. Well, obviously these guys buy what are called and when Riz me and so on. Good songs, you get a lot for your money. They're a seven piece band and they've got hem and organ, they've got keyboards, they've got brass section. I mean, it's a very full sound. The singer, who's. She's certainly. Certainly got the sort of vibe of Janis Joplin, I would suggest. They. They've got this and it's fine. They're playing to her strengths, being a brilliant singer, Megan Parnell. And I think it's great. I think they're really good. And, you know, I listen to them on the strength of stuff I've heard on the radio, which is how it should be. And subsequently, I think we should. Everyone should go and buy this album because it is absolutely brilliant. One of my favorite albums of the year, it's called shepherd, by the way, which I think is a great understated album title. And, yeah, loved it. Absolutely loved it from start to finish. And I sense from your. Because I can see Brian, of course, when we're doing these podcasts, podcasts, podcasts. It's. You're not quite as excited by it as I am. [00:30:39] Speaker A: Matthew. It's my album of the year so far. [00:30:41] Speaker B: Oh, really? Oh, my goodness. Okay. [00:30:44] Speaker A: I put this album on. I'm a big fan of roots, you know, roots rock, southern soul. And when I heard it, when I, you know, the opening track, which is. Everybody knows, it reminded me of if you take the vocals away for a moment, but if you listen to the music on the first few tracks, it reminded me when the Black Crows went from the kind of the Stones sound that they had on their debut album, and then they went to the southern harmony and it went a lot more Hammond keyboardy. You know, we think of track sync remedy, and it was. It was a lot more percussive. I heard that opening track and I just thought that is a. That style just musically sounded like the Black Crows from southern harmony. But when I listened to the rest of the album, so it's reminiscent of a lot of the jam bands from the seventies. So you've got little feet, who I love. You've got Derek and the dominoes around the time of Leila. If you listen to that album, there's quite a lot. And we've talked about Leon Russell, and then there's the Todotsky Trux band, which is Derek Trux, who's probably one of the world's greatest slide players. And Susan Tuditsky is a great, great singer, but I'm not. I like them, but Bywater call. Just take it to a completely different level. And I was just. I was blown. I was just completely. I listened to the album twice in a row. You know, I've been driving about quite a lot this weekend, so being in the cardinal and I listened to that album back to back, and, you know, it just floored me how accomplished a piece of work is. And you've got reg. You know, there's. You know, there's. You know, there's track as if there's a funkiness to. There's so, like, if you like your sly and the family stone, James Brown, there's just so many colors to what they can do. So, you know, they're touring the UK in October and luckily they're playing. You know, they're playing up in Scotland. I can't wait to go and see this band. Just honestly, find of the year for me, so far. Blown away. [00:33:25] Speaker B: Fantastic. Yes. So that was shepherd by water. Call Brian's album of the year so far. [00:33:31] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:33:34] Speaker B: We're well into August, so maybe it won't be beaten. The album covers. Brilliant as well, by the way. It's very minimalist, isn't it? [00:33:43] Speaker A: Yes. [00:33:45] Speaker B: We've started to pay more attention to album covers these days as things come out in vinyl, of course, as they have done for a few years. And it's a really. It's quite a striking piece. You could always. I could put down, my wife wouldn't allow it, of course, but I could put it on a wall in my house if I was able to. [00:34:03] Speaker A: Talking about an album that's. That's album cover that you wouldn't put on your wall. [00:34:08] Speaker B: Yes. Deep purple and equals one. [00:34:14] Speaker A: Yes. [00:34:15] Speaker B: Now, I did see Roger Glover and Ian Gillen talking about this, the whites called equals one, and I'm still none the wiser, frankly. I mean, I think I've got to finish this up in the last album because I think it seems to indicate that, you know, everything is kind of ended up here and it kind of ended and it all equals one. Yeah, I guess, like, you know, like the meaning of life, the universe and everything. I don't know. I mean, what. Have you got any sense of why it's called equals one? [00:34:48] Speaker A: No, I've no idea at all. [00:34:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sure it'll kind of come out in the, in the wash, as it were. What did you think of it, Brian? [00:34:59] Speaker A: I was very pleasantly surprised, Matt. I think Deep Purple's last album that they did in 2021 was a bit of a lackluster covers album. And I think when bands start putting out covers albums, it's either through contractual obligations or they're struggling with their creative juices or whatever you want to call it. So it kind of felt like deep Purple with doing the covers album. Okay, this, you know, maybe, you know, maybe we're coming to the end, but I think Simon McBride coming in, joining the band after Steve Morse and Steve Morris, is one of the greatest guitarists of all time. I. Where this sits for me, Matt, the compliment that I can give it is it's the best album from deep Purple since perfect strangers, but it doesn't sound as modern as perfect strangers. It kind of feels like the album that they made after fireball. It's got a real seventies percussive vibe to it. You know, that some of the tracks that came out that were released, you know, a few months ago, like pictures of you is a bangin song. I know, it's. It's fabulous. They, they, you know, if I were you, it's got an iron maiden gallop to it, you know. You know, it's. It's. So there's. You know, there's life in the old dog yet. So I was really surprised. I thought musically very interesting, a little bit more straight ahead rock and roll than probably the progressive aspect that Steve Morse would be more comfortable. So it's moving back to more familiar territory for me. So I'm not saying that Simon McBride's black Moore, but it just. It just felt more. It just felt more comfortable for me musically. Ian Pace is playing great. I thought. Don Airy. There was elements of Don Airy's interplay with Simon McBride that was. Reminded me of Gary Moore and Don Airy in the Coliseum days where you were. They were. And it's not all Hammond organ, they were using moog. And they just seemed. They just. Matt. They just seemed to be enjoying themselves. Um, so I. Yeah, the. The two things, which are like lazy swords, lazy sword just sounds like. It just sounds like a rainbow track. The riff on it reminds me of long, long live rock and roll. It's quite. Simon McBride seems to be bringing riffs back into purple. [00:37:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:37:48] Speaker A: So, yeah, I'm going to stop there and let you give you some. So, yeah. I was pleasantly surprised with the Purple album. [00:37:56] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, me too. Me too. I thought it was. I thought it was great. And it's certainly you talked about by Watercoolers, your album of the year. This is going to be in my top three. It is so good. And there is a joy about these songs, as you say. It sounds like they are enjoying themselves and it kind of permeates to the actual songs and the playing and what they've laid down on the albumen. It is. Yeah. I mean, if this. If this is the last deep Purple album and they've been going a very long time since the late sixties. [00:38:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:29] Speaker B: The only original member, of course, being Briar Ian Pearce. Ian Pace, indeed. I knew you'd get that. I thought you might, might not. Then I'd look clever. [00:38:40] Speaker A: I was going to get docked. If I got that wrong. You'd have docked my wages. But bear in mind, we don't have any budget. I'm on safe ground. [00:38:47] Speaker B: That's right. I mean, they're right. Simon McBride has injected some new life into this band. And I remember the album infinite from a couple of years ago. They did a thing about the recording of that. [00:39:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:00] Speaker B: And that was. That was. That was pretty kind of. Well, is that as you took all that time to record that album, and it wasn't even that great. Yeah, but this is. This has got some great songs on it, and if he's come up with the riffs and the songs and good on him. Favorite songs. Portable door. [00:39:15] Speaker A: What is a portable door, though, Matt? [00:39:16] Speaker B: I have no idea. I hate to think. Show me. Show me the opening track. There's some really catchy riffs on this album. And. Did you say lazy sod? And it's really, really good. I mean, it's got everything you need from a deep purple album. Great singing from in Gillen, who sings within himself. He's 78, I think, now, and he's talking about, you know, singers getting to a certain age. I mean, he's. He's kind of. He doesn't do the screams that he used to, but, you know, he's. He's kind of got himself to a point where he's comfortable with his singing style. So any pace is great. Donnelly. Don Air is quite prominent on the album and so on. It's. It's a great piece of work. It's one of my favorite albums of the year. Please go and listen to it. It's. It's great. Fantastic. Equals one by deep purple. And if you know what equals one means, let us know. Thanks. [00:40:21] Speaker A: So, Matt, we have come to the letter v in the a to z rock. We've nearly done the Alphabet. [00:40:28] Speaker B: Oh, jeez. [00:40:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:30] Speaker B: What are we going to do next? [00:40:31] Speaker A: That's something we'll need to discuss in our pre production panic meeting after the letter zenith. [00:40:40] Speaker B: We'll think of something. We should think of something before then. No, no, we're joking. We've got loads of ideas up. [00:40:47] Speaker A: Absolutely. Absolutely. Yes. [00:40:50] Speaker B: Where do you want to start? [00:40:51] Speaker A: Let's just. Let's deal with the. Let's deal with the. The Van Halen brothers and all things to do with Van Halen. We talk about Van Halen quite a lot in this, on this show, so I don't think we need to go into too much detail. So the v that we kick off the show with is Van Halen, Eddie, Alex and Wolfgang. [00:41:11] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. Yeah. Let's not forget wolfie, we talked about as well. Haven't we talked about, sadly, our first episode, we talked about Eddie Van Halen's death. [00:41:23] Speaker A: Yes. [00:41:24] Speaker B: I wouldn't advise anyone to go back to episode one because it sounds like we're rabbits in the headlights. But we can, if you like, you know, it's all good. Make sure you listen on YouTube because we get, like, point. Oh, infinity Pence. When you do. Listen, I want to mention the flying v. Yes. Iconic Gibson guitar. Have you got a flying v? [00:41:49] Speaker A: I've never had a flying v. Martin, have you. [00:41:52] Speaker B: Have you ever played one? [00:41:53] Speaker A: I have played a flying v, yes. [00:41:55] Speaker B: I bet you can't sit down and play. [00:41:57] Speaker A: Most uncomfortable thing to play. You can't, you can't. You can't play it sitting down. If you do, you kind of. It looks. It looks as if you're using it as a speed to dig the ground up. You know, it's the headstocks in the floor. [00:42:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:42:12] Speaker A: So are you going to try and. Are we going to try and have a competition? See how many. How many exponents of the flying v that we know? [00:42:22] Speaker B: Well, I mean, it's not a competition, Brian. I was thinking the ones that spring to my kk downing from Judas Priest, of course. Brian Tatler from a little band called Diamond Head. [00:42:31] Speaker A: I can't believe. [00:42:35] Speaker B: Michael Schenker. Of course. [00:42:36] Speaker A: We've got a schenker in there. Yeah. [00:42:39] Speaker B: I don't think he plays Gibson. I mean, there's plenty of v shaped guitars. [00:42:42] Speaker A: He might be coming back to Gibson's. [00:42:43] Speaker B: Gibson. [00:42:44] Speaker A: He might be coming back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:42:46] Speaker B: And of course, Randy Rhodes famously played a Gibson that kind of black and white. Black spotted. [00:42:53] Speaker A: He did, he did. Pat McMahon. Pat McMahon, Rudolph Schenker. Even the papa Hetfield from Metallica was an early user of the Flying V. Yeah. [00:43:09] Speaker B: Because they were massive fans of diamond head, weren't they? Rightly so. The whole of. Except and many, many more that we can't remember or care to mention. Of course, the bushbone ash, of course. Martin Turner, I think, played a flying b and. And so on. Oh, Jimmy Hendrix. Jimi Hendrix briefly played what I did. [00:43:30] Speaker A: He did, he did. [00:43:32] Speaker B: They are an iconic guitar, aren't they? Yeah. I think they're more sort of. They're more sort of style over substance. Because you say, famously, they are difficult. You can't play them sitting down. Of course, as you said, they do look good, don't they? [00:43:46] Speaker A: They do. They're an iconic. They're a hard rock guitar. You can't imagine any. But you can't imagine a country and western guitarist going, hey, I'm rocking up to play my chicken picking licks with a flying bee. Yeah. [00:44:03] Speaker B: Not even Brad Paisley. [00:44:04] Speaker A: No. [00:44:05] Speaker B: We're going to find out now that he plays a. Plays a flying v. Of course. [00:44:08] Speaker A: I'll try and see if we can find somewhere in social media Brad Paisley with a flying v. Yes. [00:44:13] Speaker B: People are probably shouting at their. Whatever, don't shout if you're out walking the dog like I draw or commuting while you listen to this podcast, don't shout at anyone around you saying, why don't you mention so and so? [00:44:29] Speaker A: Anyway, I was going to say. And two guitar players who are not synonymous with Flying V's, Mister Adrian Vandenberg and Mister VI, Steve Vai, both former alumni of White Snake. They did the slip of the tongue tour when white Snake went from glam metal to silly metal on that slip of the tongue tour. But yeah, Steve Vai and Van. And Adrian Brandberg. Notable mentions as versus. [00:45:01] Speaker B: Well, yeah, amazing. I mean, Steve Vai, as you say, not only a member of White Snake, but also a member of. He's David Roth, wasn't he? [00:45:11] Speaker A: Of course he was David Roth. [00:45:12] Speaker B: And of course he's. Yeah. Solo player in his own. His own right. Done umpteen albums. [00:45:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:20] Speaker B: My favorite being passionate warfare, which is an absolute masterpiece. Piece of work from 19. Ninety's good though, isn't he? He's about six foot ten and great guitarist. Very entertaining as well. Well, he's. He had a short lived band called the Moon Kings, van der Burst. Moon Kings, of course. I thought, pretty good. [00:45:43] Speaker A: I went to see them. [00:45:44] Speaker B: Yeah, they were right, weren't they? [00:45:45] Speaker A: They were fabulous. [00:45:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I've seen him a couple of times recently. He's still touring as Vandenberg, so if you get a chance to see the band Vandenberg, I think they do some white snake songs, don't they? Yeah, yeah, that's good. Shout the Van Vandenberg and VI. I should like to mention Van de Graaff generator. Now, the only reason being that those folks that are old enough to remember the Friday rock show, another iconic rock institution, many times they used to have around 11:00. I think it started at ten, finished at midnight. At the Friday rock show, around about 11:00 they'd have the Friday night connection and the theme music to the Friday night connection on the Friday rock show. And the connection was just three songs linked together. And sometimes they were very, very cryptic links. I think I only ever got one. I can remember what it was now I can't remember to this day. The only one I ever got. But I won't go into that. The theme music was a song called theme one. [00:46:48] Speaker A: Okay. [00:46:49] Speaker B: Yeah. When you play that, boys and girls, it'll take you back to your bedroom. Listening on the transistor radio in 1980 80 to the Friday, Friday night connection. [00:46:59] Speaker A: We can put it on the playlist. [00:47:01] Speaker B: I think we will. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was briefly. Briefly. Excellent. Named van de Graaff generator. [00:47:10] Speaker A: Yes. [00:47:10] Speaker B: Where do you want to go next, Brian? [00:47:12] Speaker A: I am one of the funniest a band who. A band that spawned black metal from Newcastle. Maybe if we don't get Slayer for Stone Dead, we should maybe go for Venom. Venom for Stone dead? Yeah, Venom that were formed, I think, in 1978 in Newcastle with Cronus, Mantis and Abaddon. The three of them signed to neat records, which would have been synonymous with around the time of NwobAm. I remember two things I remember about them. I think they turds. Whenever they were Turing, Metallica supported them. So Metallica have supported venom. And also I can remember when channel four had the ECT program. I can remember it. We'll maybe stick it up on our socials. Venomous were on ECT. And I have never seen as much pyro in my entire life. Matt. Coming out of drums and guitars, it was just frightening. And they just battered away at their kits playing what was thrash metal. So a worthy shout out for venom. [00:48:34] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. And they were never out of Kerrang in that era. Exactly. In that sort of early eighties eradic, did you say? You know, lauded is one of the biggest influences of the thrash and heavy metal and so on. Talking of new album, by the way. [00:48:50] Speaker A: Do we have to. [00:48:52] Speaker B: Yes, we do. Yes, we do. Vardis, featuring the brilliantly named Steve Zodiac on guitar and lead vocals. The not so brilliantly named Alan Selway and Gary Pearson on drums and bass, respectively. Yeah, they were. They were. They were pretty good for a while. Vardis. A couple of songs that, you know, were always sort of mentioned in dispatches under miles an hour and let. And let's go. But I saw Vardis a couple of years ago and they've still got it. They're still going strong. Reformed in 2014. I hope they're still going. And, yeah, those who remember Vardis. Remember Vardis where Steve Zodiac and his long blonde hair. He's got no hair now, but, uh, still sings and he's still got great chops. So, um, yeah, Vardis, uh, from Wakefield, um, which, uh, Yorkshire, that's hotbed of all things new auburn back in the day. [00:49:50] Speaker A: Certainly signs up. [00:49:53] Speaker B: Yes. He says dismissively, um, what have you got now? [00:49:56] Speaker A: Let's. Let's deal with some v brothers. So the first one off for me, uh, is the Vaughn brothers. You've got Jimmy Vaughn. And you have probably my earliest. One of my earliest influences as a guitar player. I remember somebody giving me a cassette. On one side of it was Stevie Ray Vaughn. The album was couldn't stand the weather, and he did a tremendous version of Voodoo Child on it. And it was actually the first time I had heard the track Voodoo child. I didn't know that it was a Jimi Hendrix cover. And Stevie Rayvaughn sadly passed away far too soon in 1990. Yeah. Stevie Ray Vaughan in double trouble. Phenomenal. And his brother still plays to this day and plays with Eric Clapton and is viewed as one of the stalwarts of Texas blues. So the Vaughn brothers. And then we have the Van Zant brothers as well, too. Matt, I. We've got. [00:50:59] Speaker B: Yes. [00:50:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:00] Speaker B: Donny, Ronnie and Johnny. Donny, Ronnie and Johnny. [00:51:04] Speaker A: So it sounds more like the Osmonds, doesn't it? [00:51:06] Speaker B: It does a bit. Or the Ramones, even. [00:51:10] Speaker A: Yes. [00:51:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that's great. That's great. Shout about Steve Rayborn. Yes. Ronnie, Donnie and Johnny. Yeah, Ronnie Van Zant, of course, was the also killed very young in an air related acts. [00:51:23] Speaker A: Yeah, of course. [00:51:24] Speaker B: In singer Leonard Skinner, Johnny Vanzant who replaced him, and Donnie Van Zant, who was in 38 special. [00:51:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:31] Speaker B: So, yeah, yeah. What a family. I know three amazing musicians. Joey Van Zak does a good kind of. It keeps the flame going, you know, the Leonard Skynyrd flame, as it were, does it really well. And it's very respectful of the members of. Most of them are gone now, sadly, from that era. So. Yeah, that's a good shout, bry. Very good shout. [00:52:01] Speaker A: And the one Van Zant that we, who's not related, we don't think, to the three brothers is little Stephen. Little Stephen van Zant, who for many, many years was and still is Bruce Springsteen's right hand man in the E Street bandaiden. And for a while in the mid eighties, little Stephen, and there was the disciples of soul. I remember him bringing out a charity single for Sun City. We're not going to play Sun City. And lots of bands that went and played Sun City got pelters for doing that. One of them being queen. Steven van Zandt, who is. If you're looking for somebody to follow on Twitter, Steven van Zandt is brilliant because not only is he politically minded as well, too, he's pretty much up on his sports. So on 1 minute he could be talking about Chelsea, Chelsea's football team information, and then he could be talking about the democratic nominations for that. He's such a well read and very entertaining ex formerly known as Twitter person to follow. [00:53:13] Speaker B: That's right. Yeah. Very funny. Very entertaining. Really top guy. What else? We've got notable mentions another vaughan, Danny Vaughn, who was. I saw him recently, actually, in Taketo, also out touring this year. They're worth seeing Tyketto, aren't they, Joss? Fantastic singer. Still got a great voice. Butch fig, who people say Butch vig, of course. He's a drummer of garbage. Oh, I know he is. But he's also the guy who produced Nevermind by and many others who fight his albums. But his main claim to fame, if he needs a claim to fame, is he. He coaxed many a production out of Kurt Cobain and ended up with one of the greatest albums ever, and. Never mind. So, the great butch vig. [00:54:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:02] Speaker B: Eddie Vedder. We should mention Eddie Vedder, should we? [00:54:04] Speaker A: We should. [00:54:05] Speaker B: We should. And we have mentioned Pearl jam about a billion times, but Eddie Vedder, which is not his real name, but we'll go with it anyway, is. We got to put him in. We've got to put him in the V's, even though his real name is Edward Lewis Severson III. Not very rock and roll, is it? What else you got, bro? [00:54:29] Speaker A: A couple of mentions from me. I am one of the Seminole heavy metal bands of the late sixties, early seventies. Well known for real heavy cover versions is Vanilla fudge, with Tim Bogart on bass and vocals and Carmen apiece on drums. Vanilla Fudge did some, you know, real, real heavy covers, then obviously split up. And then you had Beck, Bogarts and apace, you know, one of the first real power trios. [00:55:07] Speaker B: Or. Or it could be known as another by another name, couldn't they? A supergroup. [00:55:13] Speaker A: They could be a super group. [00:55:14] Speaker B: There you go. I said it for you. [00:55:16] Speaker A: And the same vein, then. If we're talking about supergroups, we then have to mention Velvet Revolver, which for many, many years was, you know, slash stuff. Matt Sorum were trying to find a singer, and they ended up with stone Temple pilots, folklist Scott Wieland. Their debut album is fantastic. I was lucky enough to see Velvet Revolver. Don't know if you saw them, Matt. [00:55:42] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:55:43] Speaker A: You know, tracks like Slither fault pieces. I haven't really given that much time to the second album, but that debut album was great. So. [00:55:54] Speaker B: Libertad. [00:55:55] Speaker A: Libertad, yeah. I've got. Yeah. [00:55:58] Speaker B: Second album was called contraband. Yeah. Both good albums. And then the wheels fell off for poor old Scott Wieland, and the rest is history. Dave Kushner, of course. Can't forget Dave Kushner. Rhythm guitar, of course, the. The unsung hero of that band, dare I say other notable mentions? Vixen. [00:56:16] Speaker A: Yes. [00:56:17] Speaker B: Wow. Wow. They were great. They didn't quite wear as much makeup as poison or their hair wasn't quite so big in that kind of hair metal glam era of the late eighties, early nineties. But it's some great songs. [00:56:31] Speaker A: Yes. [00:56:34] Speaker B: And, well, we're checking out songs like Edge of a broken heart and many, many more. We haven't got time to mention volbeat, modern classic in Lola Montez. One of the greatest songs written in the 21st century, in my opinion. Brilliant, brilliant song. A really good live, actually. Really quite metal. When you see them live, he sounds. [00:56:58] Speaker A: Very reminiscent of James Hatfield as vocal. [00:57:00] Speaker B: He does, he does, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Any more, Brian? [00:57:05] Speaker A: Any more for any more Vega? We cannot not mention Vega because we saw. Vega were one of the first bands that we saw coming out, coming out of lockdown. We saw them in the underground in London. Vega are just one of those aor melodic rock. They're in that FM, you know, bracket of, you know, just. They're just like. They're like a championship version of Def Leppard and being respected. They just need a break and they could be massive. You talk about glam metal with Vixen, a band that was. Got a lot of coverage and the glam metal pages was vain head, fronted by. By Davey Vane. Their. Their album no respect is one of the classic glam metal bands of the. Of the eighties. And the final one for me, Matt, is not so much classic rock, but somebody who is revered within the, the Beatles family is Isdev is a guy called Klaus Vorman and probably a bit like Bush fig when you go, who he. Claus Vorman is the graphic artist who designed the COVID of Revolver. He actually got a Grammy for that, but he also was a renowned bass player. So we played with Carly Simon, I played on ringo stars. He was just in the Beatles family. And famously, whenever Paul. Whenever the Beatles split up, the rest of the Beatles minus Paul got together and their bass player was close Vohrman. And there was. There, I think there are potentially some recordings of a band called the Ladders with Ringo, John, George and Klaus Vorman. And. Yeah, a very, very interesting man. There's an amazing documentary called about his life as a graphic designer and as a bass player and as a friend of the Beatles called all you need is Klaus. Watch it. Check him out. But yeah, Klaus Voorman, just one of those. One of those influential musicians and artists who never really gets talked about. That's me. [00:59:31] Speaker B: Very good. That was the letter V. So finally, boys and girls, and it brings us to everyone's favorite part of the podcast hidden gym ties. Thank you. Lola sounded great, as always. What do you got for us, Briar? [00:59:53] Speaker A: Inspired by your addition of Danny Vaughn into the letter V, I have gone with an album from 1986, Matt. It is an album called save your prayers from the band called wasted. Wasted where an offshoot when Pete Way had left UFO, they brought a few eps and they. And then they had an album with a singer called Finn. Quite a sound alike of Bon Scott. He had quite a raspy voice, or probably more like Dan McCaffrey from Nazareth is probably the vocal style. But they, you know, Finn left the band and they brought Danny Vaughn into Wasted and savor. Prayer is just melodic rock heaven. It is just the. So they. The tracks on it stand out tracks. Walls fall down, back in Blue, heroes die Young. They re recorded a track that they had on their previous album called Heaven Tonight. Oh, yeah. [01:00:59] Speaker B: What a song. [01:01:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. And both versions are equally as good, but Danny Vaughn is just singing like an angel on that album. Pete Way is just. Pete Way doesn't get the credit for the songwriter that he is on all of the material that he wrote with. With Phil Mog and Michael Shanker, but the album he wrote with Paul Chapman. And as you know, Matt, Paul Chapman is one of my favorite guitar players, often gets overlooked in the. In the pantheon of great guitar players. And he followed Michael Schinker and he did a great job. So my hidden gem for this episode is the album with Danny Vaughan with wasted called Savour Prayers. What have you got? [01:01:42] Speaker B: So I've got a book, it's time Briar, and it's one of the greatest books ever written. It's one of my favorite books. I've read it many, many times and I've just ordered another copy because I keep giving my copies away to people saying, you should read this. It's one of the greatest books ever written. And it is. I've got a big build up. It's called Hell Bent for leather, Confessions of a heavy metal addict by Seb Hunter. Now, if you've read it, you'll know, and I know plenty of people have read it, that listen to this and good on you. It is absolutely fantastic. It charts. It's a kind of autobiographical autograph autobiographical book. It charts Seb Hunter's life as a young fella, 15 years old, picking up a guitar for the first time. You know, this will resonate with you, Bry, of course, and learning to play it, joining a band. The ups and downs of being in a band, moving to London, getting into class A drugs along the way, coming out the other side and so on and so forth. And it's a great read. Um, and, uh, while we're at it, he's also written another book, how to be a better person, which is equally hilarious. Um, but, uh, for now, we're going to stick with, um, hell bent for leather, confessions of a heavy metal addict by Seb Hunter. [01:03:04] Speaker A: Fab. Good choice. [01:03:05] Speaker B: It's great. You should read it, Brian. [01:03:07] Speaker A: I will do, yeah. [01:03:09] Speaker B: Oh, everyone should read it. That's really why I said it. Right, so that was it. Uh, episode 69, in the bag, uh, with no innuendos at all, which is good. And, um, I. We will see everyone next time. Episode 70. How did that happen? Unbelievable. Episode 70. Wow. Well, it's been nice, Brad. You enjoy it? [01:03:34] Speaker A: I did indeed. Indeed. I had a lovely time. If you've enjoyed the show, if you haven't subscribed already, please subscribe. We're on Apple, Spotify and all well known streaming services. We're also on YouTube as well, too, so head us up there for a. Like, on YouTube. YouTube. We're also on Scotland Rocks radio every third Tuesday. So check us out. Check us out there and listen to some of the other shows on the station as well, too. It's a great radio station. And next time, I will see you, mate. We will be at Stone Dead festival. [01:04:10] Speaker B: Oh, that's right. Yes, indeed. Rocking away. Yeah. We'll give everyone a review of that. Speak next. [01:04:17] Speaker A: We shall do. [01:04:18] Speaker B: All right. Thanks for listening. See you next time. [01:04:20] Speaker A: See you now. Bye. [01:04:27] Speaker B: Girls. Bad pod. We salute you is a Mandy Rogers production.