Episode Transcript
[00:00:22] Speaker A: Well, hello there and welcome to episode 63 of the Rock podcast. Knows about the pod. We salute you in this episode. Reached the letter p in the 8th set of Rock. Thank goodness.
We've got hidden gems. Of course. Rock news, new rock on the block and lots of just inane chat between me and Brian.
Without further ado, here he is, the man in the outfield t shirt this week. I like that. As opposed to Bohemian FC, which must be in the wash, I imagine.
Here's Brian. Here he is.
And it was your birthday, Brian. Hello, Brian. By the way, I'm just going straight into your birthday, but.
[00:01:06] Speaker B: Hello, Matthew.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: How you doing?
[00:01:09] Speaker B: I'm doing well.
[00:01:10] Speaker A: Good.
[00:01:11] Speaker B: One year older.
[00:01:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Another trip around sun, man.
[00:01:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:01:17] Speaker A: One year older. Yeah. Did you have a nice birthday?
[00:01:19] Speaker B: I had a lovely birthday. I went out for a nice bite to eat. Yes, it was lovely. Lovely.
[00:01:24] Speaker A: Did you get any. I think we're all wondering, did you get any princess Diana memorabilia to add to your collection?
[00:01:30] Speaker B: No, but I am being indoctrinated into nwobim as they speak. Matthew, I am now the proud owner of my first ever. First ever Judas Priest album.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: Thank you. Well, you're very welcome. Yeah. The deluxe edition.
Deluxe edition.
I bought Brian the deluxe edition. Deluxe. I don't know what that means, actually. I mean, it's like you get cut back to extra songs on a blue booklet or something. Deluxe edition of invisible Shield by the Magic Judas priest.
[00:02:00] Speaker B: Who we.
[00:02:02] Speaker A: Who we talked about last time, didn't we? I think.
[00:02:04] Speaker B: And you've just been to see them?
[00:02:06] Speaker A: I did, yeah. A few. Couple of weeks ago. It's great. Very fantastic gig.
Loved it. Judas priests were amazing. Lots of greatest hits. Lots of songs off the new album, which were good.
Rob Halford was in fine form. The singer of Judas Priest. I should probably tell people who they are because. No, everyone knows who Rob Halford is. Of course. Rob Halford, the singer of Judas Priest, was in fine form in his seventies. Amazing. Saxon were great. Saxon was sounding good. Augmented by Brian Tatler of Diamond head, of course. That was.
That's an amazing, amazing transformation as a result of Brian joining them. And Uriah heap kicked things off about quarter to seven or something in the evening, which I think probably suited them down to the ground because they could have had a nice cup of tea.
And match of the day wasn't on that night. They've been home for Match of the day, but they probably were home for antiques roadshow, probably. Something like that, I guess. I don't know what day of the week it was on. Anyway, we digress. It's good fun news time. Brian, what has caught your eyebrow straight in. Yeah. Have I caught you by surprise with that?
[00:03:17] Speaker B: No, you haven't. You haven't. You haven't at all. We got through April Fool's Day this year. Matthew on scathing this year.
[00:03:24] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:03:24] Speaker B: I didn't. I didn't.
I didn't choke in my cornflakes with a revelation of you quitting the show.
[00:03:34] Speaker A: Actually, do you remember when we did do it? People thought, yes, good idea. Yeah. Never liked him anyway. Bramison was my favorite.
That's lovely. That is no April Fools from us. But there were some, weren't there?
[00:03:46] Speaker B: Oh, there were some brilliant ones.
I think the one that caught my eye, which was just brilliant, was Robert Fripp. So, Robert Fripp, who. For those who do not know who Robert Fripp is, Robert is the leader of King Crimson, which is one of the pioneers of progressive rock. Very serious Englishman. He always replete, very dressed very well, you could probably say, yeah, very eccentric. But then in the last, during COVID he's married to Toya Wilcox and both him and Toya have been doing cover versions of various songs and they've now got a completely new global audience. But Robert, on April Fool's Day, announced to the world and on and via Facebook, that he was starting his OnlyFans page. And there was a picture of Robert Fripp in the buff holding guitar. And I cried with laughter. Matthew, it was.
It was brilliant.
[00:05:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, again, I thought that was true. I thought, well, okay, I don't know what Onlyfans is, really. I don't.
And I thought, okay, you know, great, good on you. In the same way it was announced that Scott Ian of Anthrax. Is it anthrax?
[00:05:21] Speaker B: He said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:05:23] Speaker A: You doubt? You look doubtful there. And I thought, have I got that wrong? Scott Ian of anthrax, there was a rumour. Well, rumor or joke, I thought, that's a good idea of him joining AC DC as a replacement for Stevie Young, that is, on the rhythm guitar. And I thought, that's a good idea. And actually, I think it was an April fool joke. So, you know, in a way, there's a fine line between a joke and something you think a bit like us last year with ours, a fine line between.
That's actually a good idea. Scott Ian joining AC DC or Matt Rogers leaving the podcast for Pastors new.
Any others catch your eyebrow?
[00:06:04] Speaker B: No, no. The Robert Fritt one was just. Was just amazing. It was just brilliant.
I don't want to get too. I don't. I try not to listen to them too much because I am gullible and I. And I just fall from. But they. The Robert Frepman Scottian ones were, were, were brilliant and. Sorry, there was one where Fish, who obviously. Fish. Fish is doing his farewell tour and over the years, Fish, you know, he would. He would tell you himself, he has had his vocal challenges and he changes his. He changes his material and he changes his vocal interpretation to just save his voice in a gruel and tour.
And Fish had announced. Fish had announced that because of the overwhelming response to his farewell tour, he was going to do matinee acoustic shows for the entire tour.
Yeah. And people go, oh, brilliant. Yes, yes. And I was like, no, no, no, that's not gonna happen.
[00:07:09] Speaker A: See, I thought that was a good idea. I thought it'd be a good idea. By the way, did you know that they've taken the word gullible out of the dictionary? Did you know that?
Right, should we move on?
[00:07:23] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll move on. Move on. Anything else in use?
[00:07:26] Speaker A: Well, loads. Loads.
Started kiss? No, I've started to become a real kiss fan now. They finished.
I think it's inspired by reading Paul Stanley's autobiography, but it's brilliant. It is really good. Really good. We talked about it last time in book club of rock, but kiss have decided, along with many others, and in a way, you know, you put your house on them doing this. They've decided that they're going to sell. Well, they've sold, in fact, their rights to all their music, the name kiss, their likenesses, in other words, the kind of the. Obviously, the makeup and everything, the demon and the star child and so on to a company called Pop House, which is quite a nice name. Of course, needless to say, it's swedish entertainment company founded by Abbas Bjorn Alveyes.
Well said, but thank you. Um, and, uh, pop house, which I think it's a great name. It's classic, classic, kind of euro pop name, isn't it?
Pop house plan to use the deal to create a live music show using avatars. We knew about this, of course. Of course, similar to ABBA Voyage, um, which features digital versions of the. Of ABBA, of course. Um, and. But this is the. This is the interesting bit, of course. And you thought, surely kiss have got enough money now, come on, you've been going, you know, 50 years, you know, loads of merchandise and so on, but they have sold their. All that stuff, you know, the name and the music and everything. $300 million.
I mean, what. As I've asked you many times, right, what do you do with $300 million? I mean, come on, 300. $300. You know, do me. I'm kind of Vegas in a few weeks. Three weeks, someone gives me $300. They were like, thanks very much. 300 million.
Mind boggles, doesn't it?
[00:09:28] Speaker B: The mind does boggle, but this is the funny part. When Gene Simmons ends. Comes out after the announcement is said, but we're not doing it for the money.
[00:09:38] Speaker A: No.
I think he might have had his tongue well and truly wedged in his cheek when he said that. Come. Come on, Gene. Yeah, yeah, but.
[00:09:49] Speaker B: But it would be. It would be quite funny if.
If the pop house people turned around and said, we own everything now, Matt, you know, we own all of the kiss stuff.
Let's just stick it all in a closet and we'll come back in 20. We'll just come back to it in 20 or 30 years time. And that means kiss are officially done.
[00:10:12] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I like kiss. I mean, you know, I'm not, you know, dying the wolf fan, but, you know, I've done some good stuff. So, anyway, looks like we're going to see the avatars in the same vein as ABBA, which apparently is very good. I've not seen it, but. So the ABBA voyage is supposed to be very, very good. What else you got for spry?
[00:10:31] Speaker B: Well, kind of in the similar vein, the way things are going in planet skid row.
Skid Row might decide that they bring an avatar in to replace or a bring in to have a lead singer has been interesting.
Eric. Who is Eric Gronwall?
[00:10:54] Speaker A: That's right. Well pronounced. It's very swedish, this section so far. Eric Gronwald. Yeah.
[00:10:59] Speaker B: Yes, Eric. So Eric's the. Was the last singer in Skid Row. And what a singer he was. You know, when you look at some of the YouTube covers and.
Well, just any of the footage of Skid row, he just fitted the band brilliantly. So it sounds like a very, very amicable split, I think Eric.
Eric just doesn't have the constitution for a life on the road, and he's for his own wellness and well being is stepping back from.
Stepping back from skid row. But in a turn of events, Lizzie heel from Heelstorm is going to be sitting in a number of shows, which.
[00:11:52] Speaker A: I think is going to be like, oh, God, amazing. She's an amazing singer.
[00:11:57] Speaker B: Isn't she just? Yeah, you know, I'd love to see.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: I'd love to see that. I think they should keep her full time she could double up with hail storm.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: Surely she could be the female version of Miles Kennedy. You know, whenever alter Bridge isn't turing, he's out with slash. And, you know, so that would be brilliant. And obviously Sebastian.
So Sebastian's straight onto social media going, guys, let's give the kids what they want. You know, me back in the band.
[00:12:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Sebastian Beck, who was the original singer of. Yeah, of skid row.
I'm not sure what. He got fired, didn't he? I don't know, but, yeah, he's suggesting. It's funny, you and I were talking about this earlier.
When artists solo careers don't go quite according to plan, they sort of suggest they should I come back, drop me back, any opportunity. But I don't think they'll have him back. But they might do. I mean, who knows? But that's a genius selection. Lizzie Hale for fabulous.
And you have some sympathy for Eric Gromwell. As you say, he's an amazing singer. He is.
But he's been battling cancer for the last couple of years, specifically acute lymphoblastic leukemia.
And he said, I think he's been very brave to basically say, look, I'm done, guys, because I need to concentrate on my ongoing cancer treatment. And I can relate to that, of course. And we wish him well, of course.
Carry on recovering, Eric, and look forward to the saga of skid row. Continue to play out, of course.
Good stuff.
[00:13:38] Speaker B: Well, now the kiss. Now the kiss are off the road. We need to find, you know, bands that are going to continue to entertain us with things that are happening in their. In their organizations, other changes in bands, which I thought this was really sweet.
Anthrax are going out on tour soon, and Frankie Bello, who's the long standing bass player in the classic lineup of Anthrax.
So for personal reasons, Frank's had to.
He's not available for the next run of their touring. So what the band have done is they haven't brought in a, you know, a Duff McKagan or a celebrity substitute bass player.
They've brought in their original bass player, a gentleman called Dan Ferkus. So Dan was a co founding member of Anthrax, and he left the band 40 years ago, and the Anthrax guys have brought back in Dan. So I think that's really.
I just think that's really cool that the original bass player can come back in and actually get a chance to probably play some of the venues with Anthrax with a big audience. So I thought that was a really nice touch from the Anthrax guys.
[00:15:10] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Getting quite a few mentions. I'm not sure we've mentioned Anthrax ever on this podcast and already two mentions in one episode. There you go. Yeah, it's a nice touch.
Yeah. If you ever get a chance to see anthrax there. I mean, they won the big four, of course, along with Megadeth, Metallica and Slayer.
We're not now going to be headlining.
[00:15:31] Speaker B: Yeah, they're not headline.
[00:15:32] Speaker A: I'm absolutely devastated. No slayer for Stone Dead.
About that. For a segue. Instead, it's Saxon announced after they finished the tour with priest. What do you think about that, Brian?
I know what you think.
Pretend you're happy.
[00:15:51] Speaker B: Oh, I could pretend I'm happy. I think it's great. It's. Do you know what?
It'll be fun.
It'll be. You know, I'll be singing along the wheels of steel, as ever.
I think for a lot of people, it was the worst kept secret in stone dead history. And I think everybody. Everybody was willing it to happen. And I think part of you and me were kind of going, oh, wouldn't it be great if it was somebody like Slayer, you know?
[00:16:22] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:16:23] Speaker B: If it wasn't Saxon, it just would have been hilarious to watch. Just. Just to watch the fan pages on Facebook. Going to meltdown.
But it's a brilliant lineup.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it's good. Yeah. Looking forward to it. Well, you and I will be there, of course. We will be there in August this year. Standard festival in north of England. Just one final one, which I'm really looking forward to if it comes off. So, school of Rock, we talked about that magnificent film.
My level of films are fairly low. Of course, there's no Citizen Kane in my DVD collection, but Frank Black. No, not Frank black, but Frank black.
[00:17:10] Speaker B: We might come on to Frank Black later on.
[00:17:14] Speaker A: We may do. But Jack Black has said he's up for a potential sequel to the 2003 hit School of Rock, which we referred to many times.
And he's even got a name for it, which is quite something. He wants to call it breaking two electric boogaloo, or school of Rock two electric boogaloo, I should say.
Which is from the breaking two, which was a film, I don't know, that was about. Was it break dancing or something? I don't know. In the. In the eighties? Anyway, we digress.
Yeah, I'd like that. That'd be fun.
A school of rock two.
I'm not sure. A lot of kids, of course, were grown up. And part of the appeal of the first film was that the kids were, you know, the kids were the stars. You know, it's great. As well as Jack Black and. And of course, Joan Cusack and the rest of the cast. But I wouldn't mind that.
And I've seen this stage show as well. It's a good show if you ever get a chance to see it.
[00:18:23] Speaker B: Look at it this way, Matt. If he makes Gullah rock two, it means that we don't have to watch kung fu pandu five.
Kung fu pandu, kung fu panda five.
[00:18:40] Speaker A: Or kung fu pandu.
That's so true.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: Neither of which are in my dv collection as well, too.
[00:18:47] Speaker A: No, quite, quite. Do people even buy DVD's anymore? I don't know. I mean, you can stream things, can't you? Of course, by the touch of a button. These days, we digress. Modern technology.
We're always behind the times, aren't we, Brian?
[00:19:01] Speaker B: We are.
[00:19:03] Speaker A: I think that's it. Before we move on, though, I just wanted to mention this is not news, but it's a really nice message we got. So Grant Surtees is one of our listeners, as is his dad, Peter.
This was a couple of episodes ago. We talked about the letter M and specifically Marshall amps. Do you remember? We talked about Jim Marshall and in the legacy of martial amplification. And Grant sent. Grant was chatting to his dad, Peter, and Peter sent us this.
Grant sent us this little kind of message about his dad, which I think is great. He said, I really enjoy the podcast. Brian's my favorite, which I. Thanks, Grant.
Yeah. Okay. Shall we? All right, I'll move on anyway.
So he says, actually, jim Marshall's shop was not in Denmark street in London, but in Hanwell High street in London. It was originally a drum shop, but they had a few guitars on sale. And he says his dad, Peter, bought his first guitar there in the. In the early sixties from Jim Marshall's shop. And in fact, he had. He asked Jim Marshall, this is lovely.
You can kind of play the guitar not very well, as we've established many times, but you can kind of relate to this. So Peter used Jim Marshall's shop phone to call his dad to say, I need to buy more, slightly more expensive guitar. Is that okay? And I thought that was lovely checking in with your dad. Always a good, good thing. Um, but, uh, he said also that, uh, he thinks that Keith Moon worked in this shop. Keith Moon from the who, of course, as a young fella, um, worked in the. The Jim Marshall drum ship. Drum shop as a Saturday boy and. And got drum lessons from Jim Marshall. And, of course, we all know what happened to Keith Moon, one of the greatest drummers ever, and obviously in the who and so on. Sadly, no longer with us. Um, and, uh, Peter Xertes did, uh, in work later for Peter, for Jim Marshall, rather, um, when he was doing plastic moulding and screen printing for, um, mixing desks. So I thought that was a really nice story. Thanks, Grant. Thanks, Peter, for this. A, for listening and b, for sending in that story. I thought I was really good. And of course, I forgive you for Brian being your favourite as. Because I know everyone's favorite is Brian. So there you go. Anyway, let's move on.
[00:21:25] Speaker B: So, Matt, we now come to my favorite part of the show.
[00:21:30] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:21:31] Speaker B: New rock on the block.
[00:21:33] Speaker A: Hmm.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: Brian's bangers.
[00:21:39] Speaker A: Not be right.
Yes. What have we got?
[00:21:42] Speaker B: First, we're gonna kick off with the triumphant return.
The Robinson brothers, the Black Crows, have just released their latest album, which. Sorry, kids, I'm gonna use bad language, but it's their words, not mine. Happiness bastards has just dropped.
It's the new album by the Black Crows. A couple of singles are out of the album. The wanting and waiting was the first single that came out. It is classic black crows.
It's got that lovely swagger to it. Matt, what did you think?
[00:22:29] Speaker A: Well, he put me on the spot here, Brian, as usual. But it's certainly one of my albums of the year so far. It is absolutely brilliant. It's got so much depth. There's so much going on. The songs are great, the performances are great. Chris Robinson's voice sounds fantastic. It's. It's almost like the last 30. It's like almost a sequel to the early. The first couple of albums.
Yeah. And it's so good. And it. And it. And it's, as I say, great songs.
What? Wanting and waiting as fast becoming one of my favorite songs of the year so far. When we go. When we. When we look back in at the end of the year, this will certainly be in the top ten albums of the year. Yeah.
And.
Yeah. First album for 15 years. Is it? I think it's been a while since.
It's great.
It's great playing. I mean, I was thinking about their influences are. You know, they wear their influences on their. On this. On their sleeve, as it were. James. A bit of James Brown in there. There's gospel, there's blues, there's rock, there's Led Zepp, there's the Hammond organ in there.
You've got little Richard kind of style in there, almost. Robert Plant, you know, there's all sorts going on. It is great. I can't. I can't say more than sort of, you know, it's one of my favorite albums of the year so far.
[00:23:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
And when you. When you look at a lot of the new bands that come out, they. We've talked about the BlackBerry smoke, for example, even bands like, you know, Blackstone, Cherry. There's quite a lot of southern rock, you know, that Georgia tinged bourbon blues, and it's like, oh, you can hear the influence of the faces and this and particularly the Stones.
But then when you hear the Black crows, you go, that's the black. The black cruiser. They're nice. They now have their own sound. And I always am, like, I always was a massive fan of the.
The southern harmony. The second album, I thought, you know, remedy was just such a killer track off the second album, and nothing ever really after that met those standards of that second album. And I actually think, Matt, you're absolutely right. I think happiness bastards just really picks up as kind of that. It really feels like the third album.
And even somebody as great as Steve Gorman, who was the original drummer in the. And the Black Crows, and I thought he made a lot of the swing and the swagger of.
Of the Black Crows recording, you know, the new drummer and actually, the. The rest of the band, it just sounds revitalized, shot in the arm, whatever you want to call it, and the songwriting and the singing. Chris Robinson is going to go down as one of the most underrated lead vocalists of all time.
He very rarely gets a mention, does he, Matt?
[00:25:44] Speaker A: That's right. That's right. You're right, actually. Yeah. I mean, when they're talking about great vocals, he's got a unique style, as you say. There's a bit of that sort of jagger esque kind of swagger in his voice. If you can have swagger in your voice, he's. Yeah, it's just, as you say, he's got a start of his own and magnificent singer and he's. He's aged well. Of course. I don't think he's ever kind of. You know, he's never sort of been a sort of screamer. He's never been up there through the octaves, but he's, you know, he's kind of still got the. Still got the chops, for sure, but, yeah, absolutely magnificent album. And one that I'll be listening to, you know, for a long, long time.
[00:26:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Touring the UK in May as well, too. So if you fancy going out and catching the band, they're just started the US tour.
Go and catch the crows.
[00:26:36] Speaker A: Yeah, indeed. Yeah. Good shout. Good shout. So from the Black Crows, we come back to the UK and a band called these Wicked Rivers, who are part of that growing, um, movement in the uk new wave of classic rock.
And they've been so bracketed with that group, but they've been going since 2014. Just signed their first album deal and they're current album, their new album, it's called force of Nature.
What did you make of this, Brian? These Wicked Rivers?
[00:27:10] Speaker B: I think this is a very, very. This is their. This is only their second album. And as you say, Matt, they've been going, you know, they've been going since what, 2013, 2014.
And for a band that's been on the scene, you know, quite a lot of support slots.
We've seen them at Stone Dead festival and, yeah, I. There was. You could see the potential of the band. This second album is so mature. When I was listening to it, it got me thinking of, you know, bands. There was. There was early Leonard Skynyrd.
It was even. Even the guitar riffs, you had that kind of stoner rock clutch, even rival sons, you know, that nice guitar sound, but just the song, the songwriting itself.
There's a track on the album which is testify, which. Which they actually did on some of their earlier EPs. And I would just recommend to everybody, go and listen to the early recording of testify and how it now is being re recorded and just reinterpreted. It's just such a great, great album.
It seems to be with lots of good albums this year.
The first number of tracks, you know, the tracks like the family, it gets off to a good rise and start, but for me, where the band just seemed to shine is in the slower ballads.
You know, where the. Where the war is run is fabulous.
Just to be a man don't pray for me the orchestration and the strings, it just showcases the singer.
So I wasn't really quite sure what to expect with the album. And I didn't expect it to be as diverse, well produced, well sung for a band that's. You could go out and catch some supporting, you know.
You know, as I say, rival sons, you know, they. They've earned their dues around the club circuit. This is a really mature piece of work. I really so quite surprised with that map.
[00:29:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, me too. I'd say when we select these albums, we try to kind of keep a nice, diverse range of new releases. And this didn't necessarily jump off the page, but when you listen to it. As you say, it's a very mature record. The song, you touched upon it. The song don't pray for me, it's just an epic. It's really good and it's got magnificent guitar solo in it. And that, I think, again, would be one of my songs of the year. Absolutely brilliant. But you're right. The rest of the album, it lends itself, of course, to the 40 minutes vinyl format and the album cover. I love the album cover.
[00:30:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:18] Speaker A: It's reminiscent of. I'm trying to think what it reminds me, but it's got that kind of early seventies vibe to it. Sort of jethro tull almost kind of, you know, late sixties stand up benefit type look about it, maybe, you know. Anyway, it looks a bit Jethro tulle like.
And, yeah, it's got. It's great. It's got kind of a. It's got sort of a preacher preaching kind of undertone. And I don't mean that in a. In a bad way, but, you know, almost that kind of traveling sort of preacher sort of vibe to it. And when you see the guys, they've all got long beards, kind of frock coats, wide brim hats. They've got a certain style. And they famously. Their stage set essentially is tall lamps with old fashioned lampshades. It's very, very kind of eccentric, you might say, but well worth seeing. In fact, you and I are going to see them when I come up to Edinburgh. I don't know, you realize this. I am coming to Edinburgh.
We're going to see at Bannerman's, we're going to see these wicked rivers on their headlining tour, which I'm really looking forward to. Um. Yeah, you look, again, quite quizzical, bry. As if really, you come all the way up here.
[00:31:28] Speaker B: No, no, up north. Yeah, up north.
I just to see a band produce this quality piece of work and we're going to go and see them embarrass, you know, this is. Hopefully people will listen to the album and, you know, they. They can build on the club tour that they're going on and who know? Who knows, you know, I'm sure that. I'm sure they've got a few festival. Festival dates booked in the summer and I just think they need a. They just need a break because it's such. Such a great piece of work and. Yeah, yeah, I was. I was very surprised as well, too, which is fab.
[00:32:12] Speaker A: Yeah, indeed. So check out force of nature by the excellent these wicked rivers.
[00:32:18] Speaker B: Kindly Cheryl Crow released her album on.
[00:32:23] Speaker A: The 29 March, would you say kindly, Cheryl?
[00:32:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, she.
Well, she did it on my birthday, you know, she released. She released, you know, she released her album, you know, for my birthday.
[00:32:39] Speaker A: That's nice. That's nice.
[00:32:40] Speaker B: It was very nice of her. Very nice of her. I thought it was. She didn't tell me.
[00:32:45] Speaker A: No, it was a nice surprise.
[00:32:47] Speaker B: Nice surprise.
[00:32:48] Speaker A: Would you be getting a Cheryl crow picture behind you to replace princess Diana?
[00:32:52] Speaker B: Maybe.
[00:32:52] Speaker A: I thought I should do Cheryl Crow in. Yeah, you should. She's lovely, Cheryl Crow, isn't she? Anyway, sorry, I interrupted you. I apologize. Back to you, Brian.
[00:33:01] Speaker B: Yeah, so evolution is Cheryl's 12th studio album.
It is, again, very, very vinyl friendly, Matt. It's 41 minutes long. That's right. It's.
It's. It's a funny album.
There is. There are some, I, you know, trying to think of the sound bite to describe this is. The album's called evolution. But there's a number of tracks on this album, Matt, which, if I'm being totally honest with you, could have been direct lifts from the. From the Tuesday night music club.
It had that Ameri, that, you know, that americana feel to it, you know. You know, I remember, you know, there's a.
Oh, my goodness. All I want to do, for example, which was, which is one of her, you know, her breakthrough single. You listen to the two tracks, tracks three and four of the album, do it again, love life. You could put those as bonus tracks on Tuesday night Music Club and nobody would be any the wiser. So I thought, here. Here's, here's Cheryl being evolutionary, and she's recording music that could have gone on her debut album, but it just takes her back to that, I suppose, where she's comfortable as a. As a. As a singer songwriter. They, they stand out track. You know, I loved do it again and love life. The. The COVID of the album, which was a surprise for me, which is. Which is the Peter Gabriel track, digging in the Dark, which. Which feet features Peter Gabriel, is just a brilliant, brilliant interpretation of the. Of the track. So, yeah, the core part of the album is great.
There are a few songs which don't really sit with me, matt, in terms of, is it a little bit, you know, sort of sugary pop? The track's alarm clock and broken record, a little bit too light for me. But on the whole, I thought it was a good album. How about you?
[00:35:27] Speaker A: Well, I'd be inclined to agree with you. It is a classic slice of americana at times, and other times, it's a bit too. Bit too poppy for my liking. There's a couple of songs on it, alarm clock and broken record, which, you know, I think you touched upon it when we spoke about it earlier. Could easily sit on a kind of Taylor Swift or an Avril Lavigne ever Levine album. That said, there are some brilliant songs. As you say. The digging of the dirt collaboration with Peter Gabriel is great. She's got Wendy and Lisa from Prince's band playing on it on the album. My favorite song by some distance. Again, another song that I'll look back on as one of my favorites of the year. Song called don't walk away. Absolutely beautiful. Amazing singing and a lovely song. And a really nice sentiment, too. But also you can't change the weather is really good. Evolution, which has been the lead off track, is absolutely amazing. Really good song. Song and features Tom Morello from rage against machine playing that classic. Is it a pickup switch? He sort of uses that pickup switch as a. I'm asking you, Brian, I think you kind of know a bit about guitar. It's not much he does. Yeah, many times. But it's. It's classic Tom Morello. That's his kind of style. That's his kind of trademark thing, isn't it? But it's a really good album. And you're right. I mean, I was thinking about it and I bought those. Those early Sheryl Crow albums Tuesday night, music club. And what was the other one called? I can't remember what it's called now, but she did a couple that she. Back to back early, uh, mid. Mid nineties. I also saw her. So I was reading. Reading about her. Um, and of course, famously before she was a solo artist on her own. Right. She was in print. Um, sorry, in Michael Jackson's backing.
[00:37:12] Speaker B: She was indeed, yeah.
[00:37:14] Speaker A: And I. I saw that bad tour. So I probably saw Cheryl crow on. On stage as a backing singer with, um.
With Michael Jackson. We should do a bit about backing singers who come forward because there's been quite a few over the years, haven't they?
We'll come on to that on another episode when we talk about backing singers. Anyway, we digress. But, yeah, good album. Check it out.
I thought it was really good, as you say, not much of an evolution, but still worth checking out. Evolution by the lovely Cheryl crow. Kindly Cheryl Crow.
[00:37:45] Speaker B: Yeah. And for those in the UK, she's playing a number of shows during the summertime. I think she's. She's playing like, Hampton Court, obviously. All of them, mostly down south, Matthew. So of course you can go and see Cheryl. I'll just. I'll just have to watch it on YouTube.
[00:38:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Sorry about that. Right. But, you know, what could I say?
Britain's a big place, so. We have reached the letter p.
Can I have a pee, please, Bob?
[00:38:22] Speaker B: From. From famine to feast, Matthew all to.
[00:38:26] Speaker A: Indeed.
I quite enjoyed o actually, we kind of had to dig around that one, didn't we? But. P. Oh, my God, that's such. Too much. Really good to skim through a lot of the.
This, but there's nowhere that we can't start anywhere, apart from Elvis Presley, the king. The king of rock and roll, I think. I mean, you and I certainly, you know, grew up with Elvis. I mean, I remember when he passed away, 1977. I mean, that was amazing shock news around the world because he was. I mean, he was. He was a global, global superstar and continues to be. So I just haven't got a Vegas in a few weeks time and that'll be, you know, that's kind of Elvis's kind of heartland, not Graceland, you know, obviously. Heartland in the middle of the middle of the Nevada desert, where he did those flamboyant shows in the seventies. Yeah, Elvis. The great Elvis Presley. I think everyone's been influenced by him, bry, singing wise, of course, and of course, the birth of rock and roll, really in the mid fifties, a courtesy of jailhouse rock and blue suede shoes and so on.
[00:39:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And everybody talks in America about all of the american artists of latter days go, oh, it's all about the Ed Sullivan show and the Beatles, you know, but you go back to whenever the Beatles met Elvis, John Lennon was like, oh, my goodness.
[00:39:54] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:39:55] Speaker B: I know. And all of the mythology of him when he was living in Graceland and he had a specific burger joint that he liked and he used to get it flowing in, you know, that the stories. And I suppose in recent years with the Baz Luhrmann movie and Austin Butler doing the story of Elvis and Colonel Tom Parker, it brings him back into the.
Just back into focus. But he was. Yeah. You know, he was. He was the king.
[00:40:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Amazing. Yeah.
Did you see that Elvis film? I did Elvis autopilot. Yes. Excellent, wasn't it?
[00:40:39] Speaker B: Very, very good.
[00:40:40] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really enjoyed that. I might have to watch that again. So that was Elvis. No better place to start than the king of rock and roll.
We also need to mention Pink Floyd, of course, from, I guess, rock and roll to prog rock, of course, from essentially kind of formed in Cambridge, which is a very appropriate place for progressive rock to kind of kick off from in the late sixties, originally fronted by Sid Barrett, of course, with Richard Wright, Dave Gilmore. He joined later, of course, with Richard Wright, Roger Waters and Nick Mason.
You a Pink Floyd fan, bry?
[00:41:26] Speaker B: I love Pink Floyd. I think Pink Floyd are one of those bands. The older you get, the more. The more you learn to appreciate some of the great albums. I'd have to say the early period with Sid is not a period. I know, I know. A couple of the singles that you see on documentaries bike and is it see Emily play?
And I only know those tracks because I think David Bowie guested with David Gilmore at a show once and he wanted. He wanted to do really early, early Floyd stuff. So. Yeah, Pink Floyd. Yeah, Pink Floyd to me have made dark side of the moon, the wall, wish you were here is probably my personal favorite album. Yeah.
If you're looking at commercial progressive rock, Pink Floyd's are the benchmark.
[00:42:24] Speaker A: Absolutely, absolutely. Couldn't agree more. Started off, as you say, more of a sort of psychedelic band in the form of the year I was born. Actually, amazingly enough, I won't say when.
[00:42:36] Speaker B: 1952.
[00:42:38] Speaker A: Correct.
But as you say, amazing kind of legacy. Some fantastic albums. And of course, a lot of people will associate them with another brick in the war, the last number one in the UK of the 1970s. Did you know that?
[00:42:55] Speaker B: I did know that.
[00:42:58] Speaker A: I thought you would. You should do a rock podcast. Your knowledge rock music is just phenomenal.
[00:43:02] Speaker B: Oh, just quizzes.
How many times do you hear that? You know, sometimes in a quiz.
What was the last single of the 1970s?
[00:43:11] Speaker A: Thank you very much. That's right. Yeah, indeed.
[00:43:15] Speaker B: Fantastic. I actually have a couple of P's.
I have a couple of, let's just say younger prog bands beginning with P. This is. This is like, you know, PPP. So P is proc.
[00:43:30] Speaker A: Prog rock itself is prog.
[00:43:31] Speaker B: Exactly. So I've got a porcupine tree.
[00:43:34] Speaker A: Oh, here we go.
[00:43:35] Speaker B: And pineapple thief.
[00:43:37] Speaker A: I'll be back in a few minutes.
[00:43:40] Speaker B: We've talked enough about my. Some of my bands. I'm. But there you go. Progressive rock is prevailing previously with Porcupine Tree and Pineapple thief.
[00:43:55] Speaker A: That is particularly impressive.
What's the relationship between porcupine tree and pineapple thief? There is some sort of kind of link there, isn't there? Or are they just two proggy bands that have to have similar names?
[00:44:08] Speaker B: Ah, you, my Padawan, I have taught you well.
It's Gavin Parison. Gavin Harrison.
[00:44:18] Speaker A: A magnificent Gavin Harrison. Yes, of course. I just thought I'd tee that up for you. But yeah, they were worth a mention, as is Guy Pratt talking to Pink Floyd. Guy Pratt was the bass player of Pink Floyd and he's now the bass player of a source full of secrets, which is Nick Mason's kind of offshoot band playing the early Pink Floyd. Worth mentioning because he's a really nice guy and he is an excellent bass player. Played with thousands of different people. And it's on that magnificent other podcast that we listen to, the Rock on turds, which I. Which I'd recommend.
[00:44:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:44:52] Speaker A: Really good with. With Gary Kemp.
[00:44:54] Speaker B: So I can help you. Here's this. This is. The peas are going to. This is going to be a segway, Matt. This here's our challenge to see if we can segue every person. So I'm going to segue from Guy Pratt into the power station because Guy Pratt actually wrote with Robert Palmer. Oh, Robert Palmer.
[00:45:18] Speaker A: Oh my goodness.
[00:45:20] Speaker B: A track on the power station debut album, go to zero.
That's right, Guy.
[00:45:26] Speaker A: Right.
[00:45:26] Speaker B: Which I love. The power station. That was Andy Taylor. Got to be a good rock guitarist and obviously did a great cover of get it on the T Rex classic. So there you go.
[00:45:38] Speaker A: That's very good. And funny enough, you mentioned Robert Palmer, but some people often think that Robert Palmer was the singer of Led Z. But of course it wasn't. It was Robert Plant.
The great Robert Plant, often known as Percy.
[00:45:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know the reference for that.
[00:45:56] Speaker A: I shall tell you then. Young Brian Percy thrower was in the UK in the sixties and seventies, was one of the kind of pioneering guardian gardeners or had gardening programs. He used to pop up on Blue Peter, do you remember? Yes, he's the great Percy thrower. Well, so Robert Plant, plant equals Percy thrower. Plants. Gardening equals Percy as in Robert Plant. So yeah, that's the derivation. Percy thrower equals Robert Plant equals Percy. But Robert Plant. Well, I mean, we talked about Robert Plant. We talked about Led Zepp many times. Jimmy Page, of course, another piece an of amazing songwriting duo wrote physical graffiti, of course, one of the. Another album beginning with P and my favorite Led Zepp album with music cold from various sessions over the years that was recorded mainly at Headley Grange. And we put a load of songs off physical graffiti on the podcast. I often think about Jimmy Page as the kind of the man who really waves the flag for Led Zeppelin. Plants done his own thing. Over the years he's been out of Led Zepp more than he was in Led Zepp, of course.
And Jimmy Page still flies the flag for everything.
[00:47:11] Speaker B: Led Zepp doesn't he and guy Pratt played bass on coverdale page.
[00:47:18] Speaker A: That's right. Indeed. Yes, indeed.
That is very true. Well remembered, young Brian.
One thing that also struck me when we were going through the P's is the number of drummers. It must be a drummer thing. The number of drummers whose surname begins with P. There are loads. Cozy Powell. Well, that wasn't his real name, of course, but Cozy Powell.
[00:47:41] Speaker B: Don Powell.
[00:47:42] Speaker A: Don Powell is no relation. Don Powell from Slade, of course. Neil Peart from Rush.
Simon Phillips, who, of course, played with Judas Priest on sin after sin and many other bands got in. Michael Schenke group.
It's Ian Pace from Deep Purple.
And I think one of you mentioned earlier, Carl Palmer, of course, from Emerson Lake and Palmer.
[00:48:06] Speaker B: Yeah. And then the man.
[00:48:08] Speaker A: I'm crossing these off on my list. It's like. It's like bingo.
[00:48:12] Speaker B: And we cannot forget the man. Matthew. There you go.
[00:48:20] Speaker A: A very understated, like fortnight.
[00:48:24] Speaker B: Yes, the man. The man who would be Peart.
[00:48:28] Speaker A: That's right. Yeah, that's true. Actually, he's often touted as being, you know, if Rush got back together again, surely it would be Mike Portnoy. We talked about that many times. Singers.
We'll come back to bands in a minute, but singers, of course. Joe, rather. Steve Perry.
[00:48:49] Speaker B: I was going to say. I've seen Joe Perry sing.
[00:48:52] Speaker A: Yes. No, he's certainly not a singer. He's a guitarist. Yes, Steve Perry. We've talked about it many times for many. The voice of journey and replaced by Arnel Pineda, who's the current singer of journey. They're over here in the UK in the summer. Their tickets are far too expensive for me to be able to afford to go, but, yeah, the mighty Steve Perry of journey.
And of course, Joe Perry. We talked about Aerosmith, guitarist. Fantastic. And again, if you listen to the rock and turs, I don't want to promote their podcast too much, but a really interesting interview with Joe Perry. Yes. On the. On their podcast. Who else we got? Ryan?
[00:49:32] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness.
I'm going to go into the.
What genre? This is a pantera.
[00:49:41] Speaker A: Metal.
[00:49:42] Speaker B: Metal, yeah, they metal all the way, so.
And obviously there's a resurgence in pantera. Sadly, Darrell and Vinny's father passed away this week. 80 years. Yeah, he passed away. He was 80 years of age. But Pantera, one of those bands in the sort of late eighties, early nineties where.
Yeah, in certain magazines, certainly karang were big, big, um, um, champions for. For Pantera. And obviously, um, they're tearing up all over the place. With, um, you know, um, with. With Zach Weil. Thank you. And Charlie Bonante from Anthrax on. On drums.
[00:50:35] Speaker A: Indeed.
[00:50:36] Speaker B: Um, so Pantera.
[00:50:37] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I put loads of pantera songs on the playlist because I love a bit of pantera. Cowboys from Hill cemetery, Gates, mouthful, war. Oh, can't wait.
[00:50:47] Speaker B: And then the band. I want a band that I wanted to. That we. Whenever they brought out their album a few years ago and I was lucky enough to see them live last year, the pretty reckless.
Really, really good band.
I kind of put this band down as a whole. Bit of. A. Bit of a one hit wonder. Do you remember Papa Roach? Remember there was a period. Period of time in the, in the nineties when you had new metal with, you know, limp Biscuit and Lincoln park and all this, and Papa Roachwell were there with their angsty.
[00:51:29] Speaker A: I do remember them, actually.
[00:51:32] Speaker B: Paramore.
[00:51:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
You forgot one of your favorites, Brian. Do you remember a little band featuring Stuart Copeland, Stuart Kirpen, Sting and Andy Summers?
[00:51:44] Speaker B: I have indeed.
Guess who's below Paramore on the list?
[00:51:50] Speaker A: Not literally, I hope.
[00:51:51] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:51:53] Speaker A: Not from a ranking perspective.
[00:51:55] Speaker B: No. Not from a ranking.
[00:51:56] Speaker A: No. No.
[00:51:57] Speaker B: Go, Ghost. No. Yes. The police, the pretenders, puddle of mud.
[00:52:02] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I've got Pearl jam. We've got to mention that we talked about them many times. Do you know why they called their first album ten, by the way?
And I know it's a bit of a quiz, but I'm sure you'll know this.
[00:52:18] Speaker B: You see, I want to turn around and say. Because they were originally called Mookie Blaylock.
[00:52:24] Speaker A: Exactly. Yes. And there's a link. It was. It was his.
[00:52:27] Speaker B: Was that his number at the back of his. Yeah.
[00:52:30] Speaker A: It made me think, if you do. When you do your first album, I imagine you'll call it 15, don't you? As in 15 years at university.
Thank you.
Peljam. Mighty Pell jam. We talked about that many times. Prince, of course, we mentioned Prince early with Wendy and Lisa. I mean, just. Wow. I mean, you know, you can't. Again, a legacy that will last forever. Magnificent. Singer, songwriter, guitarist, actor, even almost.
[00:53:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:53:02] Speaker A: Purple rain, of course, was. Was his kind of high, high water mark. That album was just magnificent. We'll put some purple rain on there.
[00:53:10] Speaker B: Here's a guilty pleasure. Band. Band for me. And they often get lampooned.
But they had one of the biggest selling singles, I think, of the 19. Was it 1980s poison with.
[00:53:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:53:31] Speaker B: You know, I remember watching the chart show. It was the chart show on.
On a Saturday morning on ITV. When I was at university, one of those 15 years, man, and poison came on singing.
It was.
[00:53:51] Speaker A: What was the track every rose has.
[00:53:54] Speaker B: Its thorn, talk dirty to me. That was one of the first singles. And I just thought they were just. I never really did sleaze and glam rock, etcetera, but poison just, I thought. I thought were, you know, all the way through to on skinny bop and they were really, really great band. Somebody who I'm surprised you haven't mentioned thus far. As we do know that when you go on to university challenge or what's that other program called?
Pointless. No, not pointless. Mastermind.
When you want a mastermind, it'll be the history of diamond head and nawabum. That would be your pray and mantis.
[00:54:40] Speaker A: Praying mantis, indeed. I am on my list, my virtual list. Yes. Fantastic. Prayamantis. I first saw them, actually, at the Milton Hall Rock festival in 1981, as a fledgling band. They're still going, I think, the Troy brothers, Chris and Tino. I think their names are from memory. Yes. Check out some. Yeah, prayer mantis. Good, good. Sort of almost more proggy than metal. Prime mantis. Magnificent album covers, of course. Think courtesy of Rodney Matthews. Yeah, good shout. Good shout. I had less. We can't mention or not mention punk. Punk rock. We touched upon that once or twice.
Punk rock. I found it very scary in the mid seventies when I was a, you know, a young, young lad. You must. You must be too young for punk.
[00:55:22] Speaker B: I was too young for punk.
[00:55:24] Speaker A: I remember that famous Sex Pistols interview with Bill Grundy on causing, you know, a stir around the country. How dare people swear on live tv or swear on tv full stop. But I found it a bit scary. But the music was good, of course. The Sex Pistols and the Clash and Generation X and so on. We'll put some of those on there as an homage to punk rock albums wise. There are loads, Brian. Oh, God. Mentioned Rick Parfitt, by the way. Rick Parfitt of status quo.
[00:55:53] Speaker B: Good show. Yes, yeah.
[00:55:55] Speaker A: The legendary rhythm guitarist of quo. Yeah, right. Albums wise, let's rattle off the albums, shall we? We have got amazing, amazing albums. Paranoid by Black Sabbath, painkiller by priest. Peace sells, but who's buying? By megadeth, permanent ways by rush, perfect strangers, permission to land by the darkness, peace of mind, a power slave by maiden, our windows by rush hour, age by AC DC. Presence and physical graffiti I mentioned earlier pronounced Leonard Skynyrd and pump and pieces of eight by sticks. That's a nice place to end, isn't it anymore, Brian?
[00:56:30] Speaker B: No, no, no, we'll be here all night.
[00:56:33] Speaker A: I know that's true. Well, that was pulling. I enjoyed that. There's so much scope. However, next time it's Q.
[00:56:41] Speaker B: All right, so back. Back to famine.
[00:56:45] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness. Well, I can think of, like, Queen and Queen's Reich.
[00:56:49] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:56:51] Speaker A: Gotta start thinking about that now.
So, Brian, that brings us to everyone's favorite part of the old podcast, hidden gin ties.
Thanks, Lola. Sounded good, as always. What you got, Bright?
[00:57:08] Speaker B: I have a great documentary that I have recently watched on Amazon Prime Video, which. Which I didn't have to pay for in sense of having to buy or rent. You got it free with Amazon prime.
[00:57:24] Speaker A: Oh, is that right?
[00:57:24] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:57:26] Speaker A: So just to interject from it, interactive interact. I think we're just made up a word. Interject or interrupt.
[00:57:35] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:57:36] Speaker A: Do you get money when you talk about Amazon, by the way? No. I bet I would. You know frontiers. Do you get a pound every time you mention Amazon prime? No.
[00:57:43] Speaker B: No.
[00:57:44] Speaker A: Okay. All right. Sorry. But back to you then, Bryce. Sorry I had to ask that question. Sorry. Sorry for interacting, insurrecting.
[00:57:55] Speaker B: So before I was educationally interrupted, I have got a documentary. Matthew, where have you gone?
[00:58:07] Speaker A: I've got my hidden gem.
[00:58:12] Speaker B: I'm listening.
[00:58:13] Speaker A: I'm listening. I can hear you.
[00:58:15] Speaker B: Exactly. My hidden gem for this episode is a fascinating, fascinating documentary about the rainbow bar and grill.
It's famously.
We've talked about the Lemmy movie a few episodes ago, where Lemmy famously, effectively lived at the Rainbow bar and Grill. And it's just one of the iconic, just places to go to a rock and roll mecca in Los Angeles on the sunset Strip. And it's. It's not too long of a documentary. And it basically goes through and chronicles the.
The start of the club, how the owner of the whiskey, Ogogo, ended up putting on all of the great bands. You know, the cream, Led Zeppelin. You know, it was the place to go for rock and rolls. You know, the house band was the doors, for example, for a while.
So the owner of.
The owner of a whiskey of Gogo then opened up a bar called Villanova, renamed it the Rainbow Bar and Grill. And it just basically chronicles these stories.
It's got some great contributions from, obviously, Lemmy, Gene Simmons, Matt Sorum, and you find out. Here's a pop quiz question for you, Matt.
[00:59:53] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:59:53] Speaker B: Who are the original Hollywood vampires?
[00:59:58] Speaker A: Alex Cooper, John Lennon, Harry Nielsen.
John does. Yeah. I can't remember any others. Probably couple more, isn't it?
[01:00:07] Speaker B: Well, I was going to say, check you out. The only one you've missed is Mickey de Lenz.
[01:00:13] Speaker A: Oh, that's right. From the monkeys. Yeah.
[01:00:15] Speaker B: So there they. Where. And where did they all hang out?
[01:00:18] Speaker A: At the Rainbow bar and Grill.
[01:00:20] Speaker B: It's a great. It's. Honestly, it's a great documentary. It's a. It's, uh. I thoroughly enjoyed it and it talks about, you know, it goes through the sixties, um, the seventies, and brings it right up to. Right up to date. And there's some hilarious interviews with Slash, talking about with Matt Sorum. Whenever they did the video for Terminator. Remember they did you could be mine with Arnold Schwarzenegger. And check out the video for you. Could be mine because slash is very unsteady on that because he'd spent 4 hours in the bar necking Jaeger bombs with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
[01:00:58] Speaker A: Gee. Wow.
[01:01:00] Speaker B: So my hidden gem for this episode is the Rainbow. It's a documentary that's on Amazon prime.
[01:01:10] Speaker A: Well, I've got an album. I'm not. I'm not sure if we'd mentioned this before, but I'm going to mention it anyway. It's from a band called the Commoners, who are an excellent band from Toronto, Ontario, Canada, as opposed to the other Toronto, wherever that is.
[01:01:28] Speaker B: That's in the northeast of England.
[01:01:30] Speaker A: Is it?
[01:01:31] Speaker B: There is a place, Toronto, just outside Bishop Auckland.
[01:01:34] Speaker A: Is that right?
[01:01:35] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:01:36] Speaker A: So April fools, is it? Right?
[01:01:38] Speaker B: No, I used to drive. I used to drive to. I used to drive to.
From Bishop Auckland to a little village called Crook. And it might actually be officially called Toronto Lodge, but Toronto.
[01:01:54] Speaker A: Well, thank you.
Where was I? Anyway, this is quickly. Therefore, this is their 2022 album, find a better way. It's absolutely excellent.
It has got some great songs on it. I've seen them play them live. They're great band live. They're playing a few dates in the UK.
Hopefully they'll break into the next level with a new. They've got a new album match that's coming out this year, which I'm looking forward to.
But for now, my hidden gem for episode 63 is the 2022 album by the magnificent commoners called find a better way. Check it out and check them out on tour if they're playing near you during the summer of 2024 in the UK. So, Brian, that was it, episode 63. Done. Dusted in the can. In the can.
Where is the can, by the way? I can't see it.
[01:02:48] Speaker B: Is it. I've just. I've kicked it down the road.
[01:02:55] Speaker A: Very good.
[01:02:56] Speaker B: You set it up.
[01:02:57] Speaker A: There you go. Well, thanks for listening, everyone. Please subscribe on YouTube. YouTube on Apple podcasts. Spotify. We're also on Scotland, Brooks radio, of course, having a magnificent radio station celebrating their fifth birthday.
[01:03:10] Speaker B: They are indeed. Yeah. It's me this happy. Yeah.
[01:03:14] Speaker A: Happy birthday to Scotland rocks radio in a, in a few weeks. We wish them well. Anyway, look, be good to yourselves, look after each other, you know, keep the faith and tell all your friends about this magnificent podcast.
That's us, by the way. I'm talking about for those bad. We salute you. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time for episode 64. Bye.
[01:03:37] Speaker B: Rock on.
[01:03:45] Speaker A: Thursday, we salute you is a Mandy Rogers production.
