Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:24 Well, hello there and welcome to episode 48 of the Rock Podcast. For those about to pod we salute you. In this episode, it's the letter E in the eight of Rock. We look at the recent news. We also discussed some recent new releases in New Rock On the Block, there's Hidden Gem time, of course, and many more of your favorite features. So here he is, exciting, enigmatic, engaging, and plenty of other words, beginning with E. Here's Brian,
Speaker 2 00:01:03 Exhausted after that. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:01:05 Hey, you do both. Gee. E e of course is the, well, it's in the, is, as we said earlier, it's the, uh, the latest letter in our merry trip through the Rock alphabet. Uh, letter E if you wanna listen to A to D and go and listen online somewhere. Yes, the most used letter in the English language. Brian, did you know that the letter e I was
Speaker 2 00:01:30 Not aware of that must.
Speaker 1 00:01:31 Yeah. Well, now you are. There you go. Every day's a school day on the old, uh, podcast. So, Hey, you Ben. You doing all right?
Speaker 2 00:01:38 I'm doing good. I'm doing good. It's, uh, yeah, but I not not been too many gigs since we last recorded, but I did go and see Jeff Tit and Bannerman's.
Speaker 1 00:01:49 Oh, you started the, uh, the, the world record attempt. Have you
Speaker 2 00:01:53 <laugh>? I have indeed. One day on you. 85 to go
Speaker 1 00:01:56 <laugh>. That's right. You know, do you know what? Funny, actually a lot of people have come up to me in the street as they do just randomly. I said, yes, what can I do for you? And they said, uh, I don't ask you about that world record of gigs. I said, yeah, it was low, wasn't it? And they said, yeah, we couldn't believe it either. Hello, know. And, uh, as I said, at the time was wasted at the time. I'm sure there are plenty of people thinking I could do that. That could be me. Um, yeah, well, as I said, she Bannon's. It's like, what was it? Walk From You in Edinburgh? Yeah, it could be there, it could be there tonight. I dunno who's played tonight, but you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:02:31 Great. No, no, no. I went to see Jeff tt. Jeff TT was doing a, uh, greatest, greatest hits of Queens, Reich sounding fabulous, lots of, uh, lots of tracks off rage for order, um, operation Mind Crime, possibly an album beginning with the letter E that we'll talk about later. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, he was, he was, he was in great form, and the support band was the singer that we saw last year. Matt Mark Deley. Um, mark was sounding great. He's got some new material coming out very, very soon. He, um, he played with Jeff and Mark shared the same backing band, uh, at the gig, but I was so surprised with Jeff's focal signed it signing really, really good. So, uh, that was kind of my gig of notes since the last time we recorded. Have you been there? Anything?
Speaker 1 00:03:20 Well, yeah, a couple of things actually. Um, I went to see a, uh, a triple headliner, um, Tato Dare and fm, which I think that are becoming more and more popular. Those, those, those triple headliner or even double headliner with a, you know, a, a good support act. Um, they're becoming more and more popular because, you know, by their very nature, they, they spread the cost. You know, they all use the same kit and well, largely the same kit. Um, and, uh, yeah, I think it's, I think it's the way forward. And this was, I mean, this is great. Tato opened up, they on this, on this, on this particular show in London, and they've taken it in turns to kind of alternate the headliner in the first on and everything. And, um, I hadn't seen Tato before and I thought they were great.
Speaker 2 00:04:07 Sam Vaughn's, a brilliant singer,
Speaker 1 00:04:08 Brilliant singer, good front man, uh, great songs. Um, they, they did, uh, you know, as you can imagine, uh, in an hour, they did their sort of greatest hit set, um, largely cold from their, uh, their stu their opening album. Actually, the first album Don't Come Easy. Um, some songs from Strength in Numbers and so on. But yeah. Good, really good. And, um, I think, uh, well, I'm seeing 'em late this year, actually. Looking forward to seeing them again when they're back over in, uh, late, late part of the year for festivals. Uh, dare We're good. Uh, Darren Morton's, uh, very engaging front man. Got good band with him. Um, and I'll have plenty of nods to his time in, in Thin, Lizzie, of course. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 00:04:54 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:04:55 And, uh, put a few dare songs on the, uh, on the old playlist. But yeah, he's, he's, he's good. They're very engaging. Nice guy. Wearing sunglasses inside, though. I'm never quite sure about that. I mean, you got Bryant Lights, of course, <laugh>, you know, they're gigs, but sunglasses inside, you know, I don't know. I mean, maybe he has got an eye issue. Blesson Darren. Yeah. And if you do, if you're listening Darren, and if you do have an eye issue, I apologize, but <laugh> sunglasses, sight, I don't know. It's,
Speaker 2 00:05:25 I have a theory about that. Do you,
Speaker 1 00:05:27 I have hit me with it.
Speaker 2 00:05:29 Um, you know, the way in big in big arenas now, Matt, lots of, uh, artists will use teleprompters and Yes. So I'm wondering sometimes if you wear the sunglasses, then the audience won't be able to see people's eyes as they're looking down to the teleprompter.
Speaker 1 00:05:50 That's a good point, actually. Cause there are a few singers who shall remain nameless, who use teleprompters, and it is pretty clear that they're looking down <laugh>. Cause it's normally down at, at the kind of ground level with the, with the Absolutely. With the wedges and the foot with the monitors. Um, yeah, it's a good point. Uh, or maybe it's just, it just doesn't like the bright lights. Yeah. Um, <laugh>, we digress. And then, uh, and then fm uh, headline where their usual, uh, I mean, they're so good. Fm uh, Steve Oland, as you said, many times, one of the, one of the Great Rock voices of the last, what, 30, 40 years? Absolutely.
Speaker 2 00:06:26 Forever.
Speaker 1 00:06:26 Forever, yeah. Probably. It'd been amazing. There's amazingly consistent band and, um, yeah. Uh, well, it's good to see good old fm. So yeah, it was a fun night. I went to the Call of the Wild Festival. That was good. Um,
Speaker 2 00:06:39 That's a new one as a, as a new festival. It's
Speaker 1 00:06:42 Been around a, yeah, it's been around a few years. It's been around a few years, right in the middle of Britain, in, uh, in Lincolnshire. It was good, really well organized, um, uh, good weather too. Um, and, uh, some great acts. It, it, it's, it builds itself as the kind of family grassroots festival. And, and that's certainly shows loads of kids there, which is great to see. And, and, you know, people are all different ages, of course. Um, and, um, you know, really, really, as I said, really well organized, good fun. Saw some great bands, um, gotta give a shout out to Excellent ba. Called Until Nine, had a chat with those guys who were, who were, uh, very nice, very nice to catch up with them. Um, excellent band called Tail Tail Gunner. Who, um, <laugh> to, to call yourself Af after a maiden song.
Speaker 2 00:07:29 Exactly. That was my thoughts. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:07:31 Which is a great, that's a great maiden song. Um, and, uh, they, they, they, the, I suppose some art was the oldest, the oldest one is 29, but they dress like Metallica and maide them from about 19 83, 84 Brilliant Spandex, uh, that
Speaker 2 00:07:47 Weight. Bist balls.
Speaker 1 00:07:49 Exactly. They white high tops and everything. Yeah. Brilliant. Brilliant. You know, fly vs. And everything. <laugh>. Um, and they were great tail gutter, really enjoyed them. Uh, kicking Valentina we'd seen last year, uh, stone Dead, we did were great. They were really good value, good fun, really, really great hooky songs. Um, television headlining Saturday Night, and those Down Crows on the Sunday night. I mean, just fantastic performances from those, from those two. But television, you, you were reminding me earlier, television are doing, uh, is it 30 years of television?
Speaker 2 00:08:21 Yeah, yeah. They're gonna be doing, uh, uh, they're gonna be doing three special shows at the back end of the year. It's, uh, just by request. So they're gonna be, um, I'm assuming they're gonna put, um, uh, probably through their websites and the socials, uh, three shows full of requests, uh, from their fans. But they're playing at three iconic venues, um, uh, which I've been to, I've been to two of them. Um, so I've been to the Electric Ballroom. I've been to Nottingham Rock City, which I love, love that venue. Um, and the one venue I've not been to, which would, which will be a hometown gig for television, which is the famous St. George's Hall in Bradford. Hmm. Always in the back of crying, wasn't it, up there with the That's right. The Tivoli. The Tivoli and Buckley <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:09:10 That's right, that's right. I have no
Speaker 2 00:09:12 Idea where it is.
Speaker 1 00:09:13 <laugh>. Um, Tony Wright, though, as a, as a front man, I mean, we talked many times about different types of front people, front men, front women, um, but Tony Wright is, is quite unique. He's a, he's a good singer. Yeah. You know, and he's, and he's so engaging. But the energy this guy has, oh my goodness me. And he's just no one's, he's really slim. And, you know, uh, because he just, it doesn't work out every, every gig. Amazing.
Speaker 2 00:09:41 They did. Um, they, I'm almost certain, didn't they do a set rambling man one year?
Speaker 1 00:09:46 I think they did. Yeah. I think they did actually.
Speaker 2 00:09:48 It's like a mid after. It was like a mid-afternoon set. Perfect for that, yeah. For that
Speaker 1 00:09:53 Kind of tea time slot.
Speaker 2 00:09:54 Absolutely. They were great. He was, he's very, uh, he's like an energizer Bonnie, isn't he?
Speaker 1 00:10:00 Absolutely amazing. Yeah. Yeah. So they were good. Uh, good headliner. Uh, there was a band there that, this is a true story, actually. There. I wa I saw a band there who I audition, I auditioned for 10 years ago. <laugh>, true story.
Speaker 1 00:10:13 I said to my wife, I, I saw them on the bill. They were sure, remain nameless, by the way. No one, no one big particularly with all due respect. Um, but I saw them. I thought, hang on a minute, you guy auditioned for them. And sure enough, when I saw a few of the guys, yeah, he, he's the guitar, he's a drummer and so on. That's, I think that's, that's a first for me. She go into a festival and sing a band I don't actually audition for as a singer, of course. Um, my favorite band the whole weekend, I have to say, by some distance. Um, and then that's not because they only lived five miles down the road from me, is the Karma, was the Karma effect. <laugh>, they were just great, good, like, great band, lovely guys too. Um, and, uh, yeah, check out The Karma Effect. I think they're gonna be big. They're playing a few festivals this year. We're gonna play, we'll see 'em at SteelHouse. They're on, they're on at Stone Dad as well. Um, really, really good band. Check them out. Um, yeah. So yeah, we're an all good festival.
Speaker 2 00:11:08 So speaking of festivals, um, it's the 20th anniversary of Download, um, this year. And, uh, Metallica had their two nights sessions where they played two completely different sets. No song was play twice over the weekend. Bring me the horizon. Played on the Friday night and Slip Knot are finishing up the festival. Um, I always think that's a tough slot, you know, cuz everybody's probably wanting to go home. I know that Downloads had a lot of challenges with, uh, noise complaints and travel to get into it. Um, but, uh, it sounds as if, uh, uh, Metallica, um, put on a fantastic show from, from the YouTube, um, footage that we've seen. And they were, uh, uh, being great. I know that they've, um, they've got their own charity foundations, et cetera, and they've donated 40,000 pounds to help the homeless in Lestershire, which is f fantastic. Um, so, uh, yeah, Metallica have kicked the big festivals off in fantastic style,
Speaker 1 00:12:23 But I heard, however, in the downside, <laugh> <laugh>, I, this must be a, a first because download, as you say, download's been gone for 20 years. Yeah. So I'm surprised this hasn't come up before. But, um, there, <laugh>, and I dunno what they're gonna do about this. When you download, get these complaints from people 15 miles away saying, complaining about the, the noise now, 15 miles is a long way for, for sound to travel, of course. And for someone to be, you know, so impacted by it that they feel the need to complain. I don't know. I mean, we do like to complain in this country, but sometimes, you know, it's a little bit unnecessary. Um, <laugh> I would, I'd be, I'd be great with it. If I lived down the road, I'd be like, gr great free concert. Hello. Fantastic. There
Speaker 2 00:13:09 Was somebody on social media I thought was brilliant. It was a guy from Newcastle. Um, and he said, he said over the weekend, he said, uh, message to Metallica, can you t can you turn it up? I can't hear it. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:13:23 Oh, please. That's his spirit. That's what we like. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:13:28 So, speaking of New Castle, um, Sam Fender, who is, uh, you know, an emerging, uh, new singer songwriter, uh, in the kind of Louis Kapal de, you know, he's one of the new emerging artists. Um, good
Speaker 1 00:13:42 Name, good name. Sam Fender. Sp great,
Speaker 2 00:13:43 Isn't it? Yeah. And he plays a friend of Stratocaster as well, too, which is Does he He does Indeed. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:13:49 Oh, good on him. I like that. It'd be a bit weird if he played a Gibson or an Ider or Jack. It would be
Speaker 2 00:13:54 Just, just, it's, it's just there. He's a, he's a marketing manager's dream, isn't he? Hi, my name's <laugh>. My name is Sam Fender. So he's obviously, he's obviously a big ticket item because he's played two sold out nights at, uh, St. James' Park in New Castle, which is a 50,000 seater stadium. And on Saturday night, 10th of June, who wheels out one of the world's probably biggest celebrity New Castle in United fans, Mr. Brian Johnson. So Sam Fender brings Brian Johnson on stage with his band and belts out back in Black. And you shook me all night long. And Brian is sounding absolutely fantastic, Matt, and, and it was really interesting because Sam Fender's audience are standing there and he just, he walks up the mic and said, let's do a little bit of, of Back and Black. And the CRI are really, really, they're just like really into, and, and, uh, you know, John, I just comes on and just starts belting it out. So sounding good, uh, for those people who are thinking, oh, power trip in October when, uh, ac DC come back to live stage. Um, I think those people are lucky enough to see that, um, are in for a fantastic show with ac dc So that was, that was a bit of a surprise.
Speaker 1 00:15:17 Yeah, absolutely. Well, I mean, that's great. Good on Sam Fender. And, um, yeah, as you say, 50,000 at, uh, St. James Park. Well, fa you mentioned Brian Johnson, of course. Um, but, um, I read, and this is, this is hope for us all, of course, because we, as we, as we've said many times, I think uni universally, ac d c are loved. I mean, there aren't many people that think, oh, I don't like them. Um, bill are the fus and a bit like, uh, guns Roses, you know, they're generally Metallica. Um, they transcend all types of kind of rock music fans. And Brian Johnson has said, um, that the, the juices are a very Brian Johnson thing to say. The juices are flowing. <laugh>, the juices are running again in the, in the E S C DC Camp <laugh>. Um, which I think is lovely, a nice metaphor. Brian.
Speaker 1 00:16:10 Basically, we're up, we're up for a tour, and, um, which they are. Uh, he, uh, Brian Johnson. Brian Johnson. I think sometimes maybe he, he may be getting ahead of himself, but I'm not sure, uh, if the rest of the band who are now in this sort of late sixties seventies are quite, their juices are quite as running <laugh> as Brian's are necessarily. Um, however, we live in hope for an ac dc world tour, uh, in support of 2000 twenties, uh, power Up album. Yeah. Which was pretty good. We talked about that time, didn't we? We did. Um, that'd be great, wouldn't it? I mean, they, it's not bad. You could just say, okay, fine, five nights, memb Stadium, five nights at, at, uh, Hamden or, you know, and so on. Oh,
Speaker 2 00:16:53 So that, oh, so you're going, you're going to give us some shoes in the rest of the uk I'd say to London then <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:16:59 I thought, I thought, I don't want my for a change. Thanks.
Speaker 2 00:17:02 <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:17:03 Five nights, it's a Hampton
Speaker 2 00:17:05 Magazine.
Speaker 1 00:17:06 Is is Hamden the big, wherever, you know what I mean? Yeah. Um, but yeah, so we live in Hope. I'm an ac dc, uh, tour, or at least maybe a Wembley Stadium gig. That'll do me, I I I could just get, I'll get a tube there. Um, that'd be nice.
Speaker 2 00:17:21 Yeah. And, and one thing to watch
Speaker 1 00:17:24 My money, however, I'm just gonna say for the record, my money is on ac d c doing one of the slots in Download 24. You heard it here first, boys and girls. I have no inside knowledge, of course, but, um, fingers crossed.
Speaker 2 00:17:39 Yeah. And one thing to, uh, maybe finish off this section, Matt, is, um, we've got Glastonbury, um, later this month. There's an interesting slot on the pyramid stage on Friday the 23rd of June. It's an hour and 15 slot, and it's a mystery band called The Churn Up. Hmm. And there's a lot of chats that p possibly it's the Foo Fighters, and a lot of people are, um, hanging their hats or, or hoping that, uh, Dave Grohl had put a message out following the, the recent shows with, uh, Josh Fra, uh, where David said, it feels good to see you churning up those emotions together. So they, uh, the mystery band is called The Churn Up. Yeah. So they, the Internet's going a little bit crazy going, could the mystery band for Glastonbury this year be the fuse?
Speaker 1 00:18:41 Yes. We shall wait
Speaker 2 00:18:42 And see.
Speaker 1 00:18:44 If I was a betting man, which I am occasionally, I would put at least a five up, maybe a tener on that. It's being absolutely spot on. Um, I mean, and, and, uh, they're, they're coming on before Royal Blood. They good, good, bad. And, uh, Arctic Monkeys not good, good, bad, of course. Um, but, you know, would you really wanna follow the Fus slash the Churn up? But we shall see. It might be just a, some sort of mystery band that no one's ever heard of, and all the people are watching <laugh>, all the hundreds of thousands watching. In fact, the Pyramid stage might be, you know, slightly disappointed. Not the Fus
Speaker 2 00:19:21 Sorry, we, we are a new band called The Turnups
Speaker 1 00:19:24 <laugh>. Exactly. They're high. Yes. It's our first gig. <laugh>. Yeah. But not very good. We apologize in advance, but we're gonna do some Foo Fighter songs, please. <laugh>. And they do them badly. They'd be hilarious. I told you about Simon. I saw the, uh, the Foo Fighters tribute band who were called, uh, you see the UK Foo Fighters or Foo Fighters uk Uh, one of the two, uh, I mean, from a distance at Grass Debris put them on the stage. On the premise stage it is the Foo Fighters, the look, the sound, everything. So maybe, anyway, it's likely to be the Foo Fighters. I said it here first. It's likely to be, um, headlining the next year, uh, download ac d c. This is just speculation from my perspective. Of course, we should, but we shall see. We
Speaker 2 00:20:06 Shall indeed.
Speaker 1 00:20:07 That was the, that was the news, Brian. It's now Time Boys and Girls, a book Club of Rock, our occasional feature where Brian reads an occasional book <laugh> occasionally. How many books you get through, are you now, Brian? Three, four,
Speaker 2 00:20:28 I think. I think it's gonna be like three or four this year. Ye this
Speaker 1 00:20:32 Year, yeah. Good on you. Yeah, thanks. Good on
Speaker 2 00:20:34 You, man.
Speaker 1 00:20:34 Thanks. Good on you. And that's not Colored books, is it? That's proper reading books.
Speaker 2 00:20:39 <laugh>. This is why my selection for this episode is really good, because I'm going
Speaker 1 00:20:47 Mainly pictures
Speaker 3 00:20:49 <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:20:52 So the book, the book that I'm putting forward into our library
Speaker 1 00:20:58 For <laugh> Library for
Speaker 2 00:21:00 Our library. Love that
Speaker 1 00:21:01 For I'll just pictures. Library of Rock going off into the distance. Exactly. Somebody have, Indiana Joe's a Giant Warehouse. What's pr Could he wander down 500, uh, columns and get pick out the, uh, book. Exactly.
Speaker 2 00:21:15 So the, the book I have, which I, and I've actually read it, Matt, cover to cover. It's fabulous. Well done. It's, it's definitely By what, by, by, by Def Leppard. So what's great about the book that I bring forward for our Library of Rock
Speaker 1 00:21:37 Yes.
Speaker 2 00:21:37 Is the new hardback, um, book of the official story of Def Leppard and the Best. It's a 300 page tome hardback book. Wow. It's fabulous. Well done. I, I know
Speaker 1 00:21:52 You're done, Brian.
Speaker 2 00:21:53 Now how many pages of the 300 book, 300 book, uh, pages, how much of it's written and how much of it's pictures and scrapbook, memorabilia from the band? Matt, I'll, I'll, I'll let our readers decide and listeners decide whenever they get the book, but it's actually fabulous. The best way I can describe it. It's, it's a part scrapbook, part photo album, and part memoir, which includes all of the band. So, you know, uh, past members, you know, Steve Clark, every single member of the band, you know, has through archive, it's the telling of the story. You know, the eps, how they started the tours with ac dc Uh, you, you go through Pyromania to Hysteria, the, the Wilderness Years with Slang and 10, uh, it's a fabulous book. Um, and, and what's really great, um, you know, for those of here in the UK who, who bought Quang on a weekly basis, you've got all of the, you've got all of the, um, the covers that they had in of Ang and a lot of the pictures, you know, Ross Halen, who has followed, um, Def Leppard for years.
Speaker 2 00:23:12 There's lots of pictures from, from Ross, um, from, you know, from Mick Rock as well, too, who did, uh, remember the Covers album that they did? Yay. Yeah. So Mick Rock did a lot of the pictures for that album, which is based on the, on the covers. So I have to say, I read it, uh, over two nights, Matt. It was just fabulous. And it's, it's probably the best telling, uh, story of Def Leppard from beginning to end. So, and for a book, which is a hardback 300 pages, it's a far old tome. It's only 30 quid.
Speaker 1 00:23:50 Wow.
Speaker 2 00:23:51 So, uh, my recommendation for Book Club of Rock, uh, this episode is definitely by Def Leppard.
Speaker 1 00:24:01 Very good. Very good. I she'll have a, a read when it goes into the library of Rock <laugh>. Are you in charge of the Library of rock, by the way? Just you gotta check things out and stamp them. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:24:19 Talking about albums.
Speaker 1 00:24:23 What a what a segue. Yeah. Segues just get better and better on this show, don't they?
Speaker 2 00:24:28 <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:24:30 New Rock on the Block Time. It
Speaker 2 00:24:31 Is indeed New Rock on the Block Time. And we have got a three albums, Matthew,
Speaker 1 00:24:38 Yes.
Speaker 2 00:24:39 That were three, that we're gonna look at Tree Tree albums. Mm, yes. Um, we've got, uh, we're gonna look at the New Extreme album. We'll have a shifty at the Foo Fighters new album. But I think we should kick off with, um, a band who, a couple of members you saw of, uh, you know, a little while ago at a Planet Rock Acoustic, um, show, which, which you said was fantastic at the time when we discussed it. The rival Sons new album, dark Fighter. What did you think of it? What
Speaker 1 00:25:13 I think of it? I, well, on the hold, I liked it, Ryan. Um, I had a few songs from it, uh, before it was released. Nobody Wants to Die and Bird In the Hand, which are good, good kind of classic rival Sun songs. And if you've never listened to rival songs before, um, this is probably a good starting point for you. Good entry point for you. Seventh Album, uh, we first saw them oh, 2010. 10 11 time. That's right. Early, early on a festival stage in London at the, uh, high Voltage Festival. Um, good album. Um, it's got all sorts of different styles and kind of, uh, sort of influences. I really like the song Mirrors, which kicks off the album 40 minutes long as an album. So it's kind of old school, really. Um, as we said several times. Good, good to fit on Two sides of vinyl, of course.
Speaker 1 00:26:01 Um, and I mean, the singing, it's quite dark album. The singing is great. Uh, JB Cannon is really, I mean, he, he, he, he leaves it all out there, as it were. Um, and songs like Rapture mean, he's just, he's just, you know, you just know that every note is, is coming from his soul, basically. Um, but yeah, some good songs. Um, it's, uh, again, as we've said many times, not an immediate album, uh, needs two or three listens before you probably appreciate it. But yeah, I, uh, I did enjoy it. And it, as I say, if, if you, if you, if you like this album, then go back and check out their, their first six albums. Cause they're, they're, they're a good band and they've done some great stuff over the years. Great musicians, good singer with J Buchanan, um, great guitarist who's got holiday. So, um, yeah, go check 'em out. How about you Bra? What do you think?
Speaker 2 00:26:51 I, I couldn't agree with you more, Matt. Um, the opening track to me is a, is the track of the album, uh, MERS. Um, it's, we, we've talked about, um, Greta Van Fleet with the Led Zeppelin influences. Mers starts off in a really, you know, it's very riffy, this album. And then there's a lovely little, um, quiet acoustic moment in Mers, which just reminded me of Ramble On just right. Yes. Yeah. It's, it's, it's got that nice, uh, Zeppelin feel to it, where you've just got the dynamics of the light and shade. Um, nobody want to, nobody wants to die. There's, as you say, there's so many different influencers. There's like a lo-fi punk, you know, that sort of, uh, New York Dolls studs, uh, feel to some of the riff. Um, and, and some, some white stripes sort of that, you know, sort of really, yeah.
Speaker 2 00:27:54 Uh, breaking up guitar. But, um, you know, Jay's singing, I think the production, you just hear every note and every nuance and his vocal, you know, it, it's, you feel you're, I I listen to just the intensity and the, just the sharpness of the recording. So the pr it's such a well-produced album that, uh, I would totally agree with you. I think it's a grower. I, when I first listened to it in the first couple of lessons, I didn't get it. You know, I loved Mers right from the, from the get go. And I think the more I listened to it, the more I think it's a, it's just, I'm, it's gonna be a grower for the end of the year. Fantastic, fantastic singer. And just all the musicians are, are, are great. Really, really, they're at the top of their game. Um, and hopefully they can, you know, get out touring that album and get playing bigger venues. Matt, I can't believe some of the venues that the rival sons have been playing over the last couple of years. They should be playing theaters and getting back out doing some arena shows with Yeah. Bigger bands.
Speaker 1 00:29:01 Yeah. I'm with you. Oh, good album. Good album. Which brings us to the, the new Foo Fighters album, the much awaited, uh, album by the Foo Fighters called, but here we are. Interesting album, actually. Um, I bought the CD of it, and it comes in just a plain white Yeah. Plain white, uh, cover. No, right Apart from the sort of Foo Fighters album, sorry, Phil's name. Um, you wouldn't know what it was. Um, a very kind of faintly printed lyric sheet inside, which maybe just badly printed. But, um, in a way, I think, and I was thinking about this today, um, very similar to the way that, uh, ac d dc put out back in Black in 1980, which in itself was a, was a kind of tribute to Toon Scott. Yeah. The, the Wyatt. And I don't know this, I'm just speculation. I I purposely don't read any reviews of it.
Speaker 1 00:29:54 Um, but it might be that this is, uh, well, certainly the album itself is, you know, you can listen to it. Um, you can listen to it and, and assume that every song is essentially, um, a tribute to either Dave Gros, uh, late Mother who died fairly recently. And, and obviously, uh, Taylor Hawkins, who we know died, uh, last year. So, um, but I absolutely loved it, absolutely amazing album from start to finish. Probably one of the, one of the best food fighters albums that, that, well, best albums of food fighters they've made. Um, and just, uh, just quality throughout from the album song Rescued Under You, I can't get out my head. Brilliant song. Um, um, through To The Teacher, which is, which is about, uh, David Glass Mum, who was a teacher. Um, just, just, just, uh, great melodies, great playing, um, heartfelt lyrics throughout, or at least you can interpret them as being heartfelt lyrics, of course. And they likely are mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, hearing voices, for example. I mean, anyone who's lost someone will, uh, that song will resonate with you here at the song, hearing Voices, just listen to the lyrics. It's just, it's just beautiful. So, um, I mean, if there's a better album this year, Brian, I'll be very surprised. Um, just fantastic.
Speaker 2 00:31:18 Yeah. I see it. I, I, I couldn't agree more. Um, I, I listened to the album, um, I've listened to the album a few times, and when you've got a, when you've got a band that opened an album, which is, as e can I use the word musically, euphoric and rescued? Mm-hmm. It's, it's a really positive, it, it's a very positive, positively musical. And then when you read the lyrics, there's the melancholy just, you know, using their, you know, Dave's lyrics. Um, you know, you, you can, you can understand, um, you know, talking about his mom, talking about Taylor in it. The best way I can describe this album is I think, uh, the f I think this potentially will go down as the Foo Fighters Abbey Road. And the reason why I use the used the comparison with a road is the Beatles were dissolving at the time they were making, uh, Abbey Rhode.
Speaker 2 00:32:28 And it was one big final push for The Beatles. And, and, and you end that album with, uh, you know, the end, you know, the, the Beatles. And, and when you listen the hallway through the, uh, the Foos album, and it comes to the last track, which is Rest and the Lyric of Rest, you can rest now, rest You will, you will be safe now. It just, it just, it, it just, uh, bookends the album amazingly, um, the title track. Uh, but here we are. I'm here in Rush. It's, yeah, it's, it's epic. It's Progressive. The, the time Signatures, the, the lovely song, you, you, you talk about the, the, the songs, which, the earworm of the album for me, apart from Rescued, which I think is amazing, is, uh, show Me How, which is the song which Dave has his daughter Violet singing on, which gets, which gets you into that, my Bloody Valentine Cocktail Twins Ethereal Vocals. So, yeah. Um, I, I, you've, I think, uh, your description of this album is it's gonna have to take a very, very special album, uh, Matt to topple, uh, the Fuse for the best album of the year.
Speaker 1 00:33:53 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Great album. Thanks for those who Indeed. Yeah. Amazing. For those who, uh, dunno. We, Brian and I do a album of the year, song of the Year, and so on. I've already got my Song of the Year, by the way. Um, tucked Away, I think mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 00:34:07 <affirmative> my Song of the Year. Maybe on the next album we're gonna review.
Speaker 1 00:34:12 Oh, really? Okay, well, let's talk about that then. The new album from Extreme Yeah. Called Tilt, what's he called? Brian
Speaker 2 00:34:20 <laugh> Sex
Speaker 1 00:34:22 Six. And the reason I say that, because last time I was, uh, being a bit disparaging about bands who Unimaginative called their unimaginatively called their album six or seven or eight or five or whatever. Um, yeah, six by Extreme, the first album for it, 15
Speaker 2 00:34:40 Years, 15 years
Speaker 1 00:34:42 Since Sodas of Rock. I remember that album.
Speaker 2 00:34:45 I liked that album. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:34:47 Some good songs on it. But this is, um, this is six, probably a better, better title than Sodas of Rock, to be honest with you. <laugh>, um, rise and Ban, she been the lead off songs from it, of course, which are fantastic songs and real showcases for, um, the great Nuno Betten courts, really amazing guitar. You are, you are a half decent. So we've established Brian, you know, you must, you must obviously be heavily influenced by the great Nuna <laugh>, but, um,
Speaker 2 00:35:14 Yes. Pardon from Brian. Yes. Very much influenced Matthew to the point where of I'm influenced that, that I put a lead into my guitar. That's as much as the, that's as much as the similarities between Nuna, Batten cor Me. We use electricity to plug our guitars in. That's it.
Speaker 1 00:35:33 Yeah. Fair enough. So apart from the Rise, uh, rise and a Banshee, which are two great songs, what do you, what do you make of the rest of the album, Brian?
Speaker 2 00:35:41 I, um, well, I think that Rise as the single, it's probably got the, nobody will play a better guitar solo tapping. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, it, it was just frightening when I heard that single, um, uh, it was just amazing. I actually think the middle of the album, as you say, rise Banshee and, and Rebel are the three sort of, uh, they are the three rockers of the album, which kick it off, but it's the middle of the album that really, um, brings out the great tracks for me. The, uh, the, the sort of mid tempo, uh, other side of the Rainbow, which, which kind of showcases Nuno, let's not forget Pat Badger as well, too. Um, Nuno Pat and Gary's wonderful Harmony vocals, which is very reminiscent of wholehearted and tragic comic. Yeah. Um, so that, that, that sets it up, you know, the, the Great Track Other Side of Rainbow, the song, which potentially could be my song of the year, is the next song, which is a song called Small Town.
Speaker 2 00:36:52 Beautiful. Yeah. And the way in which Nuno and Gary's vocals, it's very much a ballad. It's not, we're not talking more than words, but it's a very slow, uh, slow track. It's just, it, it's, it's fabulous. I just love the song. I love the production, and I love the way in which, um, you know, we'll talk about something later on, which helps out singers, but I really, I really got a sense of Gary Sharon's vocal is very deep. Um, it's just been so well produced. So the middle of the album, I was kind of going, this could be my album of the year. Then when we get into the latter parts of the album, you know, um, thicker than Bloods kind of rage Against the Machine. Yep. And then the last couple of tracks, Matt, just let it down from me, <laugh>. Well, we talk, but we talk about that track <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:37:54 Beautiful Girls. Yes. Yeah. So cool, beautiful girls on it, which, uh, yeah, I mean, I think it's a bit of fun, really. Um, it's, it's kind of in a reggae tempo, isn't it? Um, yeah. And, uh, it's, it, it, I mean, it is quite an eclectic album. Yeah. Um, you got the, you know, the rockers in Rise and Banshee, as you say, you got a couple of ballads back to back in other side of Rainbow and Small Town. Beautiful. We've got, um, as you say, a bit of, I, I hadn't kind of sensed the rage against some Sheen influences, but yeah, I can see that. Yeah. Hurricane I think is really good. Yes. Um, uh, and then it, and so it's, it is, I think it's a bit, bit of, uh, fun. And I was, and I, I was listening to this today. I needless to say, I was out walking the dog and I, sorry, I listened to most albums and I was thinking, well, led Zeb got away with it, with Jamma, with Jamaica.
Speaker 1 00:38:38 Um, so why not, you know, why not the Extreme with the beautiful girls? Yeah. So, yeah, I think, I think it may have been slightly tongue in cheek, but, um, I, I really wanted to like this album. Uh, so I listened to it and listened to it, and listened to it. And as we've said many times, it's like the old days when you were young, you know, you know, it took me a few listens to get into it, kind of. And, um, I, I and I came out thinking, yeah, it is a good strong album. Um, it's a good return from them. Um, it's got a bit of everything. And, uh, if you like, as you say, the Harmony vocals, it's got those, if you like the, the New Nose shredding, it's got that as well. So, yeah. Good album check out, um, extreme and, um, six, now it's time for the Age Set of Rock. And we've reached the letter E, Brian, what have you got for us in e
Speaker 2 00:39:37 Well, Matthew, I, yes. I was all ears. All ears. I, I was thinking about what was, what is the greatest album that I have on my collection, which begins with the letter E and it was
Speaker 1 00:39:50 Easy. Okay. Was it, it's Easy. Who's that by? Who's that by then? <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:39:55 Uh, well, it, it was Journey and It's Escape, Matt. It, 19 eight, you know, 1981. It spawned that song, which has been Yes. Which has been streamed a gazillion times. Yeah. Um, but I think for most fans outside of the us that was the album, which, uh, which we all got to hear Stone of Love. Don't Stop Believing. Who's Crying Now? Oh My Goodness. O Open Arms, which, which as we know will be rerecorded for, uh, for Dolly Parton's, uh, rock Album. Um, yep. So I had to kick off a with Escape Matt, a great album. Do you remember it?
Speaker 1 00:40:45 I do. Yeah. I remember it very well. It is a good album. Um, I do remember Stony Love and of course, don't Stop Believing, which I think is a staple on our playlist. <laugh>. Um, my favorite, my favorite album, however, is, is the title track. Um, really it was made even. Yeah. Because, uh, do you remember that, um, that live concert from Houston? Yes, they did. Uh, to re promote the album and, and Gray. So yeah, good album. Good Choice, good choice. We're on albums then. Um, I'm mentioning live albums, excess Days left by The Mighty Rush, also from 81, I think from Memory. That's a good album. Just a, an excuse to talk about Rush. And, you know, that was on the, uh, moving Pitchers tour. Um, I, I dunno where it was recorded, but, um, oh, that's got Apollo, well, part of it's part is from Glasgow.
Speaker 1 00:41:35 Yeah. Close to the heart. It's got the famous Glasgow choir, of course. Um, yeah, it's got Red Barquet on there and, um, Zou and Lato and so on. So yeah, we've got up to a good star after, to a flyer. Um, couple of bands to mention. Well, quite a few bands actually. And we'll come back to the notable mentions earlier, cause people gonna say, what about Ex Line Main Exile on Main Street? What about Empire by Queens Wright? I can hear them now, <laugh>. They will stop me in the street and ask me that as they often do, um, couple of bands to mention The Eagles, of course, the Mighty Eagles. I've not talking about Crystal Palace here, by the way, <laugh>, I'm talking about the band that was formed in 1971 in Los Angeles who started out apparently as Lin Linda Ronstadt's backing band.
Speaker 2 00:42:20 That's very true. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:42:22 Yeah. Um, they've done all right from themselves, haven't 80 Eagles.
Speaker 2 00:42:26 Well, and they, if you remember rightly, an accolade that can never be taken away from them. They had, I think it's in America, they had the biggest selling album of this century in their greatest hits.
Speaker 1 00:42:45 Yeah, yeah, indeed. Yeah. Which is quite nice, isn't it? I mean, I, I was reading about them earlier. I mean, they're, they're, as you say, like, you know, six Grammys and six Gold albums and, you know, and so on and so forth. I mean, just, you know, mega stats. Yeah. Um, but yeah, still going strong for you. Few of the members have sadly passed away and, um, and of course been fired <laugh> in technical Eagles style, but, uh, essentially still, uh, still a great band. Of course. Um, what are your favorites? Of course, Brian did <laugh>. Is that the, that's almost your signature tune. Europe.
Speaker 2 00:43:21 Ah, yes. The Mighty Europe
Speaker 1 00:43:25 Formed. Yeah. Not them didn't you
Speaker 2 00:43:26 Formed in 1979. They are currently the top band that I have seen the most.
Speaker 1 00:43:33 Is that right?
Speaker 2 00:43:34 Yep. They're joint, joint level with King's ex.
Speaker 1 00:43:38 Surprise,
Speaker 2 00:43:38 Surprise, surprise, surprise. But this year, Europe will go into a soul first position. Um,
Speaker 1 00:43:46 I bet they could be very pleased about that. <laugh>, you meet Joey Tempest strongly around London.
Speaker 2 00:43:51 Exactly. Yeah. Great band. And, and we all, we all remember, we all remember Europe with their, uh, I suppose their break breakthrough album in 1986, which was the final countdown. Um, they've, so they've only sold Matt about 10 million albums worldwide. So not, not a massive, uh, you know, in comparison to the likes of Def Leppard and ac dc et cetera. But, um, when you look at their back catalog, you know, final Countdown album, um, and, and even the later albums when they got back together, um, in 2003, start from the Dark last look at Eden, uh, bag of Bones. What I know the tour that you and I went to, which is The War of Kings, and also Walk the Earth Fabulous band. And they're, they're, they are now turning into that classic rock heritage band. You know, you, they're the influences of White Snake, purple, rainbow Thin, Lizzie, U f O, great, great band, and still delivering the goods, as we saw in SteelHouse.
Speaker 1 00:44:58 That's right. Brief mention for, um, E L O, and you talk of, um, talk about 10 million albums. So there, their album out of the Blue, uh, to their seventh album. And that Spawn turned to Stone, Mr. Blue Sky, Spokey Talking Woman, wild Bass Hero from great songs, um, now in his itself sold 10 million copies globally, would you believe? Wow. And after Blue Alone and everything on, it was written by Jeff Lynn and produced by the Great Man. Wow. I think he's probably done right out of that album.
Speaker 2 00:45:33 <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:45:34 God Bless him. Um, other notable mentions in, uh, band Wise, uh, one of my favorite new, newer, newer bands, uh, fantastic band from the northeast of England. England is, uh, Eden Thorn. Seen him a few times. Great bang, great singer, uh, great songs. Check them out if they plain near you. E l p, of course, Emerson Lagan Palmer. Um, you must like him. You're a Prague guy.
Speaker 2 00:46:00 I am. I, I was so, I was so chuffed when, when the, uh, high Voltage Festival, uh, was about 2010 and 2011, Matt, cause I finally got to see e l p, you know, three musicians. Um, it'd been amazing to see them in the seventies when they were really at the top of their game. You know, Greg Lech, um, Carl Palmer and Keith Emerson, three individual musicians. Greg Lech with this almost Cho or pure vocal with his acoustic Keith Emerson with his completely progressive mad keyboard sticking. He was, what do they call him? The, the Jimmy Hendrix of the Keyboards. Um, and then Carl Palmer, who's just an amazing, amazing drummer. So yes. You know, uh, uh, yeah. I love eop p. They're amazing band.
Speaker 1 00:46:54 Very good. Finally, couple of mentions, um, outside the box, Eddie, the ubiquitous Iron Maiden mascot, um, who's kind of, um, he's kind of, uh, grown and, and and metamorphosis so many times over the years. But I remember him when he was simply a box, uh, a little head or a little mask above the band, above the drummer. This is back in the very early days. And then, um, yeah, they just spit out blood, no actual blood, of course. It was like some sort of fake blood, um, through a, a goldfish, a pub thing. And, um, my first time seeing Eddie was, um, was, uh, the roadies used roadies used to come out, was a Killers tour. Roadies used to come out with little masks on spray, I dunno, dry ice or whatever it was. Cause the audience, which famously, as you were telling me earlier, was Nick home at Brain's First appearance with Maiden as a, as a, as an Eddie. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:47:47 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:47:48 Back in 81 or so when he was with Trust, presumably great band.
Speaker 2 00:47:51 Uh, if you don't mind, I, there's somebody who I have to mention as an, uh, in, in our, in our A to Z for ease. And this man to me has been voted by many as the greatest bass player of all time. Um, he goes by the name of the Ox Thunder Fingers, the Quiet one. Big Johnny Twinkle. I didn't know about that one. <laugh>. No, I didn't. Yeah. Big Johnny Twinkle. We have to, uh, finish off this, um, eight to Zed section with John Entwistle for a band that we don't really talk about much on the show. The who. Um, but, uh, John Entwistle is regarded, as I say, is one of the greatest bass players, you know, for, for a lot, for a lot of me musicians. If you were to talk to Pete Downend when they talked about who the, who the lead instruments were, <laugh> and the who, it was lead drums from Keith Moon, lead bass from, uh, John Anw. And actually the person that was keeping the rhythm was speed times in. So, uh, yeah, we have to give a shout out to John en well, so who sadly, um, you know, passed, passed away in 2002, I think, in Las Vegas. Um, and they had to, uh, I think they were on tour and very, very quickly penal Pino was, uh, ushered in very, very quickly to help, help the band out and stayed with the bank. But, uh, John Twe finishes off e for me, Matt
Speaker 1 00:49:32 And our eighties rock.
Speaker 1 00:49:35 So Brad, that brings us to unsung heroes, where in we discuss someone behind the scenes who doesn't always get the applauds and the accolades of the stars. And this time it's a chap called Brian David vg, also known as Butch, the great butch vig musician songwriter, and of course, best known as a producer and best known probably for his work with Nirvana, of course, famously produced Nevermind, um, has gone on to produce many, many other bands over the years. Um, and an all round nice guy, probably I can see for a producer that is, um, and, uh, recently bringing Upstate, he's worked with the Foo Fighters. Um, he worked with Green Day, and, um, yeah, he's, uh, I don't think he quite gets the, the recognition clearly. He's obviously very well thought of in the, in the, uh, in the rock genre. But I just thought I'd bring up Butch feet. Brian, thoughts about Butch?
Speaker 2 00:50:43 Absolutely great choice as a, as an unsung hero. He, um, for somebody who was as fragile and quiet as Kurt Cobain was he really, he's one of those pro producers as a, as a nice guy that he is, he cooks, um, performances, particularly out of Kurts, um, yes. From a singing perspective. And there's a fantastic interview on the, you know, the series classic albums where, um, Kurt's there, Butch is working with, uh, Kurt to try and cook some vocal, um, vocal performances out of him. And, um, you know, Kurt was such a massive Beatles fan, and I think that's right. I think that's where all of the Nirvana members had. They all, they all joined together with their, their love of the Beatles. And I know that, uh, in order for, you know, Kurt's refused to double track his vocals and guitars. Um, and Butch wanted to get, you know, that, that sort of richness of the vocal. And Kurt was having none of it. And then, uh, Butch said, well, you know, John Lennon double tracked his vocals. So then Kurt <laugh>, Kurt was, you know, that was the lovely way that he, uh, that he got Kurt to do what he wanted him to do, which was double track the vocals. Um, great, great. Um, pro, uh, producer also did quite a bit of work with, um, uh, Jimmy Eat World, and he produced the, um, uh, the Smashing Pumpkins as well, too.
Speaker 1 00:52:28 Yep, yep.
Speaker 2 00:52:28 But, but as, as you say, uh, well probably well known for his production career. Um, but for, for, I think he wanted a break after, nevermind in the, uh, production and he, he kind of put garbage together. That's right. Which I remember going out and buying the first single, it was about 95, 96, stupid Girl.
Speaker 1 00:52:51 Oh, yeah. That's a good song. There isn't it?
Speaker 2 00:52:53 Really, really good song. Um, I
Speaker 1 00:52:55 Did Shirley Manson singing. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Good show. I didn't know he formed him, but yeah. You say 93, he formed Garbage Good on him. Yeah. Yeah. Clearly A Man of many Talents, much like yourself, Bry <laugh>, that was unsung hero, yeah. This time. So finally, it brings us to everyone's favorite art of the show, Brian Hidden. Oh, thanks, Lola. Sounding good as always. What you got for us this time, Brian?
Speaker 2 00:53:31 Um, I have an album from a band, Matt.
Speaker 1 00:53:35 Wow. Really? I have a indeed. An album from, got an album from a band. Shouldn't. Exactly.
Speaker 2 00:53:39 And well, I'm going to this, this is the, I'm just gonna test you. Which record label do you think this album might be from?
Speaker 1 00:53:50 I don't know. I don't know until you ask me.
Speaker 2 00:53:52 Uh, it might be the one that I get a quid for every time I mention them.
Speaker 1 00:53:56 Oh, good old, uh, good Old Frontiers. Another Pound in the Pot for Blind,
Speaker 2 00:54:00 Another Pound in the Pot. This is a band, uh, and it's actually a bomb, uh, an album that was released this year, uh, earlier this year. In fact, it was released in St. Patrick's Day. Um, the, the band is called Cross. The band is called Cross-Country Driver. And their, their debut album is called The Nu Truth. So it's fronted by, uh, Rob Lamo. Um, Rob is the lead singer of the RiverDogs, which, um, uh, were a great, great band in the nineties, features a well known guitarist from Def Leppards. And when you look at the, the list of guests that Rob has been able to, to pull together for this album, uh, Mike Manini from Dream Theaters on the album, Greg Chason, who's great bass player, who, uh, featured on the Badlands albums with Ray Gillen and Jake Lee, Doug Penick, um, turns up on a few tracks. Um, a a really funky track called A Man With No Direction, and a beautiful song, beautiful Ballad in the album is where, uh, Vivian, so Vivian of Campbell turns up and plays some beautiful guitar. It's a actually some lovely slide guitar reminiscent of George Harris and on a track from Risen. Wow. So it was released in St. Patrick's Day, and my hidden Gem is The New Truth by Cross Country Driver.
Speaker 1 00:55:28 Good choice.
Speaker 2 00:55:29 What about you, man?
Speaker 1 00:55:31 I got another album as well. Oh, bye. By band. Bye band. And, uh, but it's not on Frontier's, another Pound Fbri. Okay. Um, it's, um, 2022 album release. Strange enough, the day after St. Patrick's Day on the 18th of March last year. Um, and I mentioned them earlier, the Karma Effect, the first album by the Karma Effect called The Karma Effect, which is also s slash t for years. And I didn't know, didn't know what that meant. S slash t when you see it written down, you know. But anyway, this is the, um, the s slash t album, uh, the Karma Effect m great songs on this, if you've seen the Camera Effect, uh, testify, uh, is probably the standout song, which is the standout song on the album, but also Steal Your Heart. Um, and the river, it's got very cool contemporary sound. Um, got a bit of black crows thrown in, um, got a bit of sort of dirty honey kind of sound to it, but they're, they're not quite the same as Dirty honey. There's been similarities mentioned, but, um, I don't think they're quite the same. Um, but yeah, good band, as I say. Good guys. And, uh, so, uh, my hidden gem for this episode, Brian, is the Car Effect self-titled album. How about that?
Speaker 2 00:56:48 Fabulous. Fabulous. There you go. That's, that was it. Yep. Episode 48. All wrapped up.
Speaker 1 00:56:56 All wrapped up in a nice bow on it. And
Speaker 2 00:56:58 That's it, Matt. That's another episode. Done. Um, you will find the show on all of the usual podcasting platforms. We are on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter, and we are now on Scotland Rocks Radio, which is great.
Speaker 1 00:57:15 Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2 00:57:16 Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:57:16 Yeah, indeed.
Speaker 2 00:57:18 So thanks
Speaker 1 00:57:19 For listening.
Speaker 2 00:57:19 Thanks for listening, and we'll see you all next time. Bye for now.
