Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:23 Hello everybody and welcome to episode 45 of the Classic Rock Podcast. But who to board? We solitude. On this episode, Martin and I will be discussing the latest news. It's b in the eight out of Rock. This episode, we have Hidden Gems. We have Book Club of Rock, and we have some stunting New Rock on the block. And here
Speaker 2 00:00:48 He is, everybody.
Speaker 1 00:00:49 No, he hasn't left the podcast,
Speaker 2 00:00:54 The Sword. If it'd let me in in the April Fools, I would've been very happy. Mr. Matt Rogers. How are you mate? Welcome back to the podcast.
Speaker 3 00:01:03 Oh, thank you, <laugh>. Thank you. Oh, just a bit of fun. Although a couple of people were quite pleased. Oh, great. I didn't, I didn't like him. Anyway. <laugh>, it's Tony, I impersonations. <laugh>. Yeah. You, you, you, you know who you are. Yeah. Um, yeah. That's just a bit of fun. Just a bit of fun. Exactly. And it was April, April 4th. Oh, you fell for it though, didn't you?
Speaker 2 00:01:23 I fell for it. <laugh>. I was, it was the first thing on social media I saw on, on, on April Fools Day was, you know, sorry to hear the departure of <laugh>. And I'm like, on what
Speaker 3 00:01:40 I know as, as with my things. I cook that up when I was walking the dog. You
Speaker 2 00:01:44 Do. Thank you.
Speaker 3 00:01:44 Um, there you go. Um, also, thanks to everyone who donated to our recent charity, um, venture. Um, we raised our target, uh, for the, uh, UK charity shelter, which provides, um, uh, well, is, is a relation to homelessness and provides or looks to provide quality housing for, um, those that need it. So, uh, thank you everyone and well done to, uh, John Buchanan, who won the mug. Lucky John. And to Matt Graydon who won the, uh, I say won. We'll get their hands on, um, the Mug and the lives of Brine book respectively. We'll probably do another one of those. Bry. Yes. I quite enjoyed that. It was quite a struggle, but, um, we got there in the end. We've got little, some mugs thanks
Speaker 2 00:02:33 To give away, haven't we?
Speaker 3 00:02:34 Oh, loads. Well, Le less now cause I dropped, I've dropped more recently, but, so we've got p bits of mugs to give away now, which I think are probably worth more than the actual mug themselves. Now. We've got plenty of mugs. Um, if you want one, I don't know, send us an email or something. I don't know. Um, right. So what you got for us, Bri, what has caught your eye? Brier.
Speaker 2 00:02:57 So, in the news mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So, Matt, it's so just when we thought things were calming down in the world of rock. Yes. You know, ACE Freely is calling out Paul Stanley, and, and he, he's Ace is going to dish the dirt on Paul and Gene, and then he decides after speaking to his friends and going an AA meeting, I'm not going to do that. We think, we think the world of ruckus calm down and lo and behold, all is not well in the land of Motley Crew. It would appear
Speaker 3 00:03:30 Not for the first time.
Speaker 2 00:03:31 Not for the first time. So we thought, we thought that M Mars, the wonderful guitar player that Mc Mars had retired from Motley Crew and he'd retired from touring. Yep. And he was gonna set out the tour and John five, amazing guitar player, and they'd been playing with, John was going to, he was going to do the live shows and Mick was gonna stay a member of the band. So Mick has filed a lawsuit this week accusing the band of pushing him out of the grip and trying to cut him out of future earnings. So, um, Motley Crew. And he's also said as well too, that he was the only member of the band who was playing all of his parts live on stage. Uh, Nicki six's bass parts were pre-recorded. Some of drum, uh, Tommy Lee's drums, and I think we featured in a show in the not so distant past where there was some footage of Tommy Lee running to his drums, Jon.
Speaker 3 00:04:40 Ah, that's right. I do remember that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:04:42 Yeah. So he was running to his drums and the, and the drums had already started. So, um, yeah, so I th more to follow on, uh, on the, the, the Motley crew and obviously, uh, Motley Crew have responded back to say that, uh, they've been carrying Mick for years and Pearl Bob Daley has, um, who we love dearly, one of my hidden gem or one of my
Speaker 3 00:05:09 Unsung heroes.
Speaker 2 00:05:10 Thank you.
Speaker 3 00:05:11 You do, you do remember the features, don't you? You know, that's unsung heroes. Do
Speaker 2 00:05:16 I do? My goodness. So, yes. So I think there'll be more
Speaker 3 00:05:20 That's bus pop dates he got too. Other thing. Yes. So Bob, he just put to Thrive in No, you got another, you got a pound of each Italian mentioned
Speaker 2 00:05:26 Bob Daley. Yeah. Bob Bob Daley. No, Bob Daley. Um, whenever, whenever Motley Motley crew in the eighties when they were supporting Ozzy, um, on one of the, on one of the early tours, the band were going to kick Mc Mars outta the band. And Bob Daley convinced the, the remaining members of of Motley Cru don't kick Mick outta the band, because as a band you have a chemistry. And, and he used the example of, you know, leakers like, and, and himself, when you had the original Blizzard of Oz band, you've got that chemistry. Don't mess with the chemistry. So he said kick, you know, he convinced Motley Crew to keep Mc Mars in the band. So I'm sure more to follow Matthew in lovely world of Motley Crew. How about you?
Speaker 3 00:06:16 Um, well, talking of, um, talk, I don't wanna be smug about this of course, but I will be. Um, so talking of touring guitarists who retired, so Paul Quinn Saxon, as, as we mentioned, NA time as, uh, retired from touring. And one of us, uh, predicted it will be, uh, Brian Tatler from Diamond Head who would take over. And another lo and behold, <laugh>. I thought pants vibe season was over. You
Speaker 2 00:06:44 Called it.
Speaker 3 00:06:45 I called it. I called it. And, uh, gr that's great. That's good for Brian. Uh, diamond Head against continue, thankfully. Uh, which is good. I mean, we're in a, we're in a, an era now where, where, and we probably always have been where, um, musicians, you know, can straddle two bands because they're out there to make a living. I mean, we, we've said that many times, God are the days where you can sell lots of albums or tour, you know, mega stadiums. Brian Satler, what? He's not play with Diamond Head. Um, I, okay. He gets royalties from the Metallica, uh, covers, but he also teaches guitar. He's a guitar teacher. So, um, you, I'll be pleased with this exposure and Diamond Head will get some exposure and so on and so forth. But yeah, it's good. Saxon will continue and, um, be interested. I'm interested to see it. I mean, good on Paul, Paul Quinn. You know, we wish him well in his kind of retirement from touring, but, um, yeah, good to see Brian, Brian, the other Brian in my life, um, up there playing with Sexton.
Speaker 2 00:07:45 The only thing I would ask Matthew is in the next time, see when Thin Lizzie, or you know, Scott Gorum, uh, is put, when he is putting thin Lizzie again, can you, can you chuck that guess in, you know, that, you know, oh, do you know who I think the new Yeah. League guitarist and th Lizzie should be and can drop my name in.
Speaker 3 00:08:06 I will.
Speaker 2 00:08:07 I know. I'm not very good.
Speaker 3 00:08:08 No, you're not, you're not a great guitarist. He's not a good, but, you know, I'll, I'll try. I'll, I'll throw it out there and see if it sticks.
Speaker 2 00:08:15 Maybe that was the April Fool <laugh>. So you keep, keep that as in April fool for next year. Scott, don't, don't reform Lizzie until next year.
Speaker 3 00:08:24 No, true. Um, so that was that. Yeah. So, um, yeah, more to come on both those stories. Well just come back to what you said about Mud Crew. John five say his real name. We, uh, you know, we talked a bit last time about, um, about stage names and a Alia Yes. Said Alias is, or a I was thinking about that.
Speaker 2 00:08:44 Anyways. John, John Low.
Speaker 3 00:08:47 I was there. John Low. Okay. Was there another Larry John. Another John Larry. Change it to something else.
Speaker 2 00:08:53 Who knows John
Speaker 3 00:08:54 The, why do I pick John five? It's weird, isn't it? We'll have to, we'll have to do a bit at some point about how you'd choose a stage name
Speaker 2 00:09:06 Or just do, do what Slip Knot do is like, everybody's just a number.
Speaker 3 00:09:10 That's true. Yeah. I know what number You'd be 15 <laugh> to celebrate your 15 years at university. There you go. Thank you. Job
Speaker 2 00:09:21 Done. There you go. There
Speaker 3 00:09:22 You go. Right. Actually, move on
Speaker 2 00:09:24 Before we get to Exactly. So Territory and, uh, another battery feature quite a lot. Um, good news download is for the first time in its new format, completely sold out, Matthew. So the, is it four nights? Four nights? The, the two nights with Metallica. So if anybody wants to go to, to see Metallica this year and you've missed out and download, you can go and see Metallica on, I, I thought this, I genuinely thought this was an April film match was in October, the bill for a festival, and it's called Pirate Trip. And the bands playing Yes. On Pirate Trip are on the Friday night, guns N Roses and Iron Maiden, the Saturday night AC dc which sounds like their only show of 2023 with Ozzy. And then the Sunday night, the four mentioned Metallica with Tool.
Speaker 3 00:10:22 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:10:22 So across three nights, you're going to get effectively six massive headline acts who would be headline of festivals all the world. So we'll have to start, uh, raid our piggy banks very, very soon, Matthew, if we want to go to Parship, because the tickets are $599, um, with v i p packages at $1,749 plus flights plus accommodation, plus you're spending monies and shackles for beers. Um, but ac dc live this year. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 00:11:03 I know. Uh, yeah, it's quite something that Bill, isn't it? I mean, uh, uh, and those bands don't come cheap. No. I dunno what the under bill, I dunno what the under Bill's like, but I imagine they're all being asked to pay for free to just sort of, to fund the headliners. But, you know, it's okay. You can watch ACD DC everyone, so please play for free. Great. If you live in Indio, California, imagine you'd live in just down the road. Musts be great. Oh, that's on your doorstep. And, uh, you know, so you just gotta pay your $599 entrance fee and you're in. Um, and I imagine beers are, you know, gonna be like,
Speaker 2 00:11:39 Oh
Speaker 3 00:11:40 Man, 20 bucks a piece, maybe. Who knows. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I mean, great, great. Look, you know, ac dc are back in some shape or form, of course. Uh, whether this will, as you say, whether this will be a flash in the pan, I have have a feeling that they'll do, um, they will just do festivals. Uh, I mean, Angus Young celebrated his 68th birthday recently, and, uh, as you said, Brian Johnson's in his, in his mid seventies. So, uh, I can't see them, you know, doing big global tours again. But, uh, festivals, light, slightly downloads and the European festivals, and obviously this giant festival in America. Um, maybe, maybe the way things will play out in the next few years for a ac dc Yeah. And maybe the other bands on a bill as well. Batica recently said that they've got, um, no more than 10 years left of touring in them, which is obviously different to playing couple of festivals a year. Yeah. Um, because I think, you know, they've realized that it's, it's hard and it's hard, you know, going around the world and living out suitcases and in luxurious tour buses and flying in private jets and all that sort of, so it's, it's tough
Speaker 2 00:12:46 <laugh>. Yeah. It's a tough, a tough life for Metallica these days, isn't it?
Speaker 3 00:12:51 <laugh>, exactly. Um, no, we, we joke of course.
Speaker 2 00:12:55 Um, yeah. Won't be too long for the new album. 72 Seasons.
Speaker 3 00:13:00 That's true. Coming out soon. Looking forward to that. Yeah. Um, so what of new albums or new music? Mm-hmm. So, um, we talked about Greta Van Fleet couple of times on the podcast. So more recently when we talked about their album, battle for Gardens Gate, which we thought was fantastic. Um, they've got a similarly epic song out at the moment called Meeting the Master, uh, which is from their new album, which is due out in July, called Star Catcher. Uh, I, I already feel it's gonna be, uh, that song, meeting the Master is gonna be in my top 10 songs of the year, if not top five. Um, listen to it, it's fantastic. We'll put it on the, uh, playlist. Yeah. Looking forward to that album. Good old Greta Van
Speaker 2 00:13:45 Fleet, the, the, the singer. How he, he's actually sounded in even better on this recording. I Mm. You just want, you listen to some singers and you go, I want to hear him do that live. That is just, it's a phenomenal performance, uh, taking nothing a wealth away from the rest of the guys, cuz mu musically, you know, the drums, bass guitar is, it's all exceptional stuff, but the vocals are just, they're out of this world.
Speaker 3 00:14:15 I know. Amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Um, Josh Kisker, do you remember what his birthday is, Brian, by any chance?
Speaker 2 00:14:22 It's the same as yours.
Speaker 3 00:14:24 It is indeed.
Speaker 2 00:14:25 Yes. <laugh>,
Speaker 3 00:14:28 They, they cheered in Unison, which is coming up soon. Uh, right. So, uh, any other news, Chris? Brian?
Speaker 2 00:14:37 Well, talking about new music as well, too. Yes. You put me on to an absolutely phenomenal. It's like New Rock on the Block from 1987 and a fabulous band called Garish and the Chronicles back on Earth. Matthew. Yes.
Speaker 3 00:14:59 Oh, no, recently I came out in January. Yeah. Uh, I'm not sure what what led me to, uh, to, to check it out, but, um, yeah, I mean, it's got, it's, it's fantastic, isn't it? Check it out, everyone.
Speaker 2 00:15:12 It it is, uh, garish is, I, I know where I heard garish from, or, or where the, uh, news around Garish was coming. F from, uh, from Me was a band. I have to, it's, it's an episode I've gotta mention Frontier Records, Matt. Yes. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and
Speaker 3 00:15:32 The Of the Pound in the Pots. Yes.
Speaker 2 00:15:34 <laugh>. So, do you remember the band called The End Machine? Who I like it's a mm-hmm. <affirmative>. It's all of the members of Dawkin, apart from Don Duncan and the, and the original singer in, uh, the End Machine was called Robert Mason. So Roberts actually left, um, the N Machine Now. And the Third N Machine album will feature Garish and Joel Hawk, who we love, um, from White Snake. And, and he's doing some shows and acoustic shows around the UK right at this moment in time, some acoustic shows. But Joel has a, uh, solo career going as well. And Garish is gonna be singing on Jules's new album. So he's, wow. He's getting, he's, he's moving in some very good rock circles at this moment in time. Mm-hmm. But, um, what a create album, Matt, I, the, you know, right To Hell Loaded is just, you know, the best way I can describe it, garish has got the package. He is just that eighties glam metal hair band, but with a little bit of heavy metal in it as well. He's, yeah. Thank you very much. Uh, 15 Pounds well spent in my local record store, Matthew.
Speaker 3 00:16:55 Very good for garish. Very good. Excellent. Yeah, some good songs. That album packed with Rock and Roll Cliches, um, and, uh, the Obligatory Ballad Yes. To years. She's pretty good. Yeah. But yeah, it's got some great songs on it. Um, yeah, check It Out Back On Earth by Garish in the Chronicles. We'll put some, um, songs on the old, uh, playlist from that. Um, I also drew your attention too in the New Rock World, new Rock on the Block, um, an album called, an album called Fearless from Crown Lands. Um, now this is, this has only been out a couple of weeks. Um, interesting album, Brian. Very much in the progressive rock genre of that. My friend Richard Monk, uh, drew my attention, my attention to it, and I passed on to you. Um, what did you, uh, what did you think about, uh, fearless by Crown Lands? Brian
Speaker 2 00:17:55 Matthew? I thought that this album was a secret album made by Rush in 1979. That era of rush that I like that, you know, sort of permanent waves moving pitchers era. They, the, the soaring vocals. I can't believe that they, you know, Cody and Kevin are actually Canadian as well, too. Uh, it just, yeah. New Brock, new Rock on the block, uh, reminiscent of 1980s rush. We're in that territory, aren't we? Around kind of kingdom come, led Zeppelin, crown Lands and, and Rush. There's, there's quite a lot of similarities. Great album. If you want, if you want some new Prague, go and check out Corland Fearless. Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:18:49 Great. No, I, I would agree. I, I don't, I don't really know what to think of it, to be honest with you. I mean, I, I I sensed it was more sort of hemisphere's farewell to King's era. A rush. Okay. Uh, late seventies. Um, cuz there are bits of it. You think, hang on a minute, that sounds a bit like San Aou or Phyllis Transo or, you know, whatever that said. Uh, it is good. I mean, if you wanna really immerse yourself into, into something which is contemporary prog, albeit heavily influenced by Russia. Yeah. And I think they, they know, they hold their hands up. It's from the same part of Canada as Russia. Um, uh, an excellent named place called Asua. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> on Ontario. Um, just the two of them, as you say, two guys just, you know, um, amazing musician ships. Um, so yeah, check it out. Um, fearless by Crown Lands and the, um, the album cover is very kind of, uh, Roger Dean meets
Speaker 2 00:19:46 Oh, isn't
Speaker 3 00:19:47 It, to Matthews. Yeah. Great stuff. Yeah. Um, so, um, yeah, some, some as as always, some good, some good music out. Um, more to come, we talked about earlier with Greta VanFleet and Metallica. So, um, yeah, it's gonna be tough when we choose our albums of the year Bry this year.
Speaker 2 00:20:03 It is. And
Speaker 3 00:20:04 That is a long, long way off.
Speaker 2 00:20:06 It's a long, long way, but one artist we cannot and band that we cannot, this is our opportunity. And, uh, Lord Vivian of Campbell would not forgive us if we didn't give a mention to the New last in Line album, which was released a few days ago. Um, Jericho, uh, it was released on the 31st of March. Um, obviously last Lason Lane. Um, we've got two, uh, original members from the, from the Deal band, uh, Veni and Vivine Campbell. Phil Suan, who, uh, joined the band after the, uh, sad Person of Jimmy Bean. The album is a lot more rock and it has a bit of a psychedelic feel to it, but I would, you know, not Today, Satan, which is the lead off track, um, ghost Town, Vernon Bridgers, it's even Walls of Jericho. It's a great, great album. Um, but the star of the show and the star of the album for me is Andrew Freeman. Andrew singing on the album is just, wow. He's just sounding really good. Last and Line are now starting to have their own sound mats. You know, they've, you know, I'm sure they will still play some D era, you know, classics. Um, but a very, very strong album, um, from from Vivian and Cool. So last in line, Jericho Oai.
Speaker 3 00:21:37 So Brian, that brings us to our new-ish feature of Book Club of Rock. Yep. We've, we've got jingle for it. Yeah. Have we really? Now we to have to work on one, maybe with your limited musical ability, you could sort something out. Okay. Um, <laugh>. So this, um, is, uh, cause you know, I'm a very prolific reader, Brian.
Speaker 2 00:21:58 You are indeed. As am may know.
Speaker 3 00:22:01 Well, yes. Uh, well under Duress <laugh> you are. Um, but, you know, I do read, uh, do you know, I'm, I'm, I joke about it. I'm, I'm more now like one book a month. Okay. Um, which I think is pretty, uh, admirable. Cause I'm traveling more now, you know, kind of, we're now going off here. So I'm moving around. And so I, uh, I, I, I read, which is nice. Um, so this book is, um, it's an absolute cracker on book. Um, it's a few years old now. It's, uh, Mustain a Life in Metal. Um, it's the autobiography of, uh, Dave Mustain. Uh, for those who Dunno, Dave Mustain is the, um, basically the lead guitarist, lead singer of Mega Death and has been since, uh, the early eighties. Um, it's a really good read. It's really well written. Um, it's quite poignant in places, uh, quite uplifting.
Speaker 3 00:22:56 Um, he's had a tough ride over the years, famously fired by Metallica before their first album was recorded back in 83, uh, because of his overindulgence in mainly in al in alcohol. But over the years he is been through various, um, drug rehabilitations. Um, he was from a, uh, essentially a, a a a very difficult kind of upbringing, um, in his, in his early home life. Uh, and like a lot of, um, well, a lot of people found some sort of degree in co of comfort in, uh, in music, but is built up mega death over the years. And this is essentially his story and the story of Megadeath. Um, numerous personnel changes, um, again, similar indulgences to, to Dave himself. But these days he's clean. Uh, he's sober, he's born again Christian. He's recently recovered from cancer. He's had so many things thrown at him, but he's, uh, he's still going strong. He's resolved his differences with, with Metallica. Um, and as I say, it's a really good read. It's a few years old now. It doesn't deal with his, his cancer in the last few years. But, um, yeah, world worth checking out. It's, uh, it's a really good read, uh, Mustang and Life in Metal. There you go.
Speaker 2 00:24:07 I will, I will, I will give that a read. Matthew,
Speaker 3 00:24:09 You'll read the summary on, uh, Amazon, won't you? I can tell <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:24:13 Do you know what I, I think there people like Dave, you know, there's always a villain of the piece isn't, or in the, in the history of a band or, or the Yeah. You know, and I have to say, haven't watched the, some kind of monster whenever Dave, um, comes in and, you know, they're, they're working through their issues. And I always, I I'll not get this right when, when Dave is, is speaking to Lars, and I'm not sure if James is there, but he talks about his little Danish friend and, and, and Dave's really reaching out. You know, he's, he's, you know, he, he, he, he really had a tough time following his exit from Metallica. And, and you know, he, he, he had a really rough time of it. Uh, and he's come, as you say, he is come out the other end and he, and he, he's probably now one of the godfather godfathers of metal.
Speaker 2 00:25:04 And he would, if he had, if he had, I know in the, in, in recent magazines and online, you know, he'd push for another big four. You know, he'd like to get the, the Anthrax Slayer Metallica Mega Death up to all play games. So yeah, he comes across as a really, really sincere guy. And, and, you know, Marty Friedman, um, when, when Mega Death were playing in Japan recently, you know, Marty Fried Friedman come out and played with the band. So, no, well, feeling, you know, he seems to have, yeah. He seems a really, really good guy.
Speaker 3 00:25:39 Yeah, he is. Yeah. Uh, you're right. I mean, he's resolved all these differences with the Metallica boys with Yeah, yeah. With, uh, guys that he's had to, uh, let go from Megadeath. And it's also a good opportunity for me to put loads of Megadeath songs on the, uh, <laugh> on the playlists, of course. So that's the real reason why I've reviewed this book, <laugh>. Yay. Um, so that was, uh, book Club Rock. Excellent. For another episode.
Speaker 2 00:26:03 So Matthew, um, so for this episode, I get the, the pleasure of choosing the unsung hero and the unsung hero I'm picking, which
Speaker 3 00:26:14 We need a, we need a jingle for as
Speaker 2 00:26:15 Well. We need a jingle for it as well too. I, I
Speaker 3 00:26:17 Think, I think it should be similar to the other Jingle Unsung Hero Time
Speaker 2 00:26:23 <laugh>. I feel it's gonna be a variation in the theme just to save us from copyright Matthew
Speaker 3 00:26:30 <laugh>. Exactly. Cuz we're, we're just, we're gonna have to sue ourselves now <laugh> for plagiarism.
Speaker 2 00:26:34 Exactly. We will be the, we will be the new millennials version of John Fogerty. That's right. I'm going to sue myself. So, um, this, uh, episode's unsung Hero, um, that, that I've chosen is sadly, uh, a musician who's just recently passed away. But when I mention, uh, the work and the catalog of this gentleman, you will know that he's a very, very worthy unsung hero. This man is Ian Bernson. I know everybody, once I say this band and this song, everybody's gonna be thinking this. So Ian was the guitar player in the seventies band pilot who had couple of big, big singles, very multi-layered vocals. Um, the single I remember, which was Magic, and I know everybody who's on the podcast is they're all gonna be going, oh, oh, oh, yeah, it's fabulous. And then you had January, um, so Ian was the guitar player, um, in, uh, in pilots and a lot of the members of pilots, um, Ian and, and David Payton.
Speaker 2 00:27:46 So David Payton was the bass player in the singer and pilot, um, were core members of the Alan Parsons project, um, which was very progressive, uh, rock band in the seventies. But where I know Ian from, and, um, again, an excuse for me to put some Kate Bush on the playlist, Ian was the guitar player, um, on Kate Bush's five of her albums. And he plays the guitar solo at the end of her debut, single Withering Heights. So that glorious guitar, a lot of people when they hear that, put that solo down to, well, Dave Gilmore must have played it. No, it was played by, uh, Ian Bernson. So we'll stick some pilot and some Kit Bush on the playlist for Ian Bernson, who was my unsung hero for this episode map.
Speaker 3 00:28:44 Very good, very good. I remember Pilot. Yeah, yeah, I do remember them. As you say, January magic and, uh, and so on. And you're right, I was in the camp of thinking that solo was played by Dave Gilmore, but, um, I stand corrected after all these years.
Speaker 2 00:28:57 There you go. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:28:59 So Brian, that brings us to the latest episode in the new feature, the eight Z of Rock. So today, last time, which brings us to, of course, the letter B,
Speaker 2 00:29:16 Yes.
Speaker 3 00:29:17 B for Brian, as I said, we're doing this in sequential, dare I say, alphabetical order. So B this week,
Speaker 2 00:29:26 But you say B for Brian. But yes, if I, if you were gonna put me in the eight is of rock, you'll have me in an M cuz we're doing
Speaker 3 00:29:34 That's true. Yes. Yes. We established that last time, didn't we? We, yes. The it's the surname, which is the, uh, the the deciding factor. Yes. As the way you sit in the, um, I'll be way down the list, obviously. I'm way in the future.
Speaker 2 00:29:46 Well, the, the thing is, you know, with the greatest respect, mate. Yes. You know, you, you, your name is Rogers. Yes. And I think when we get to r if I have to choose between you and Paul Rogers.
Speaker 3 00:30:00 Yes.
Speaker 2 00:30:01 Sorry. Miam.
Speaker 3 00:30:02 I'm Char <laugh>. That's charming. <laugh>, but I, I totally understand. Anyway, let's stick with B. So Brad, there's only really one place to start. Yep. The letter B, the gods, the godfathers, the founders of heavy metal, maybe Black Sabbath.
Speaker 2 00:30:25 Yes.
Speaker 3 00:30:28 Now, normally this is an excuse for me to do my Tony I impersonation, but I won't this time. Cause then we've had enough of that for a while. I shall revisit that when we get to, uh, I for I
Speaker 2 00:30:37 Mm.
Speaker 3 00:30:38 But not tea for Tony, as we established last time, black Sabbath. Right. Uh, called it a day a few years ago. Not surprising. Cause they started in 1968
Speaker 2 00:30:53 With the ba where they, they were called Earth weren't there originally.
Speaker 3 00:30:56 Well, they were called, uh, they were called, they were called Earth briefly. They were briefly also called the Polka Tok Blues Band. Um, which, uh, I, I'm glad they dispensed with that <laugh>, to be honest with you. <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:31:11 Can't imagine that line playing war pegs, can you?
Speaker 3 00:31:15 No, exactly. Um, but yeah, formed in, uh, formed this 1968, I mean, essentially the, the, the lineup that lasted, uh, well, for the majority of their, their career, really. I mean, they've had a, they've had a quite a, a number of different members in the latter years, of course. But essentially, I think most people remember them for the classic, um, Tony ime, uh, Gibala, bill Ward, Aussie Osborne lineup. Yeah. Um, and, uh, I mean, just, just an amazing songs. Um, over the years, of course, paranoid, I think is probably their most well-known song, um, along with War Pigs and, uh, iron Man Sabbath, bloody Sabbath and so on. Um, just, just amazing, amazing band. Amazing, amazing legacy. And, you know, as, as you said, once or twice really, I suppose you could kind of trace it all back to Tony, I, uh, chopping the tops of his fingers off having to use, would use, uh, lighter gauge strings on his guitar, or did Chew. I mean, you know, a little bit about playing guitar. Not much, but I mean, you know, that he would've had to kind of obviously allow for his, um, damaged fingers. And, and the rest, his history obviously had a resurgence with Ro dio in the eighties, which I think is a, an amazing era, uh, that heaven and hell and, um, mob Royals era. It's, uh, yeah, we couldn't start anywhere else but with Black Sabbath, Brian.
Speaker 2 00:32:34 And, and to bring it right up to date, um, this year I believe that Black Sabbath will be re-releasing, um, remastered versions of the Live Evil album, which famously, I believe is the album where, where it all went wrong for, for Ronnie, Ronnie and Tony. When, when people were going into the, the studio when
Speaker 3 00:32:58 Allegedly
Speaker 2 00:32:58 Allegedly, um, turning, turning bits down in the mix, either drums too loud or vocals too high, or Yeah. So it's, it's getting, it's getting the whole remastering reissue, um, live evil, but you can't stand anywhere heavier than Black Sabbath.
Speaker 3 00:33:17 It's very true. So what you got for, in the, involved with the Bees,
Speaker 2 00:33:23 Isn't it funny you black's probably going to be a theme <laugh>, um, in, in This Bee, because for me, um, there, there seems to be more than one man. And Black Matthew, to me, the Man in Black is Richie Blackmore. Yes. The, the Mystique is, but obviously Johnny Cash Kindley claim to the Man in Black as well too. But I, for, for our pod, our little podcast, the Man in Black for me is Mr. Richard Hugh Blackmore, a founding member of Deep Purple, um, you know, deep Purple's catalog. You know, maybe when we get to R and we talk about riffs, probably, you know, you've mentioned Paranoid. Probably one of the, the greatest rock and roll riffs of all time or heavy metal riffs is Smoke on the Water. So Ritchie, what more can we say? Ritchie Blackmore Deep Purple Rainbow. He's obviously playing his traditional folk music with Blackmore's Nights he's been doing for 25 years. Resurrects Rainbow now and again, but we can't have the eight. Is Ed of Rock and Bees without Mr. Richie Blackmore?
Speaker 3 00:34:41 Uh, indeed. Yes. Good shout. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> again, one of the, uh, one of the masters and one of the founders of, I guess you could say most influential rock musicians there's ever been, um, you mentioned Paul Rogers earlier, actually, of course, the great Paul Rogers, probably without a doubt our favorite singer. Um,
Speaker 2 00:35:01 Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 00:35:02 <laugh>. But of course, back in 1974 formed what? Ah,
Speaker 2 00:35:07 We,
Speaker 3 00:35:08 Yay. See I did that, like,
Speaker 2 00:35:10 That bad company
Speaker 3 00:35:11 Who, uh, I forgot what it's called. You know, when you bring different people from different bands together, <laugh>, they were one of the first examples That was it. One of the, on the first immigrants, uh, Paul Rogers and, um, Simon Kurt from Free, of course, Boz Bar from King Crimson and Mick Ralphs from Mota Hoop. And I was, I was listening to the First Bad Company album recently, and, and I considered it was released in 1974. It's absolutely amazing. It
Speaker 2 00:35:40 Is
Speaker 3 00:35:41 Nearly 50 years ago. And it's just, it, I mean, we, we've, many times we've talked about albums and bands staying the test of time, but I mean, this album, the First Bad Company album, start to finish, just amazing, some great, great songs on there. Um, and they carried it on through their career. Um, and, and still, as you said, a bit like, um, a bit like Richie Blackmore, who's Rainbow, uh, still still popup ever now and again, we've seen 'em a couple of times over the years we've mentioned on the old podcast, but we can't, we can't have bes without bad company, can we? Amazing Bad.
Speaker 2 00:36:18 Yeah. We often talk about, um, artists, new, new bands and their debut albums, and you don't get much better, um, than Bad Companies debut album as and as you say, an album that was, um, released 49 years ago. Interestingly, Matt, when you talk about 1974 in the Release of Bad Companies debut album, another album that was released and probably my favorite album beginning with B, is burned by D Purple. Um, which features Richie Blackmore, it would've been phenomenal to be a fan. Um, and living in 19 73, 74, um, where Gillon and Glover have left the band, you know, you mentioned Paul Rogers, you know, uh, Paul Rogers was, was possibly going to be joining Deep Purple. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, you know, and that was one of the reasons why Glen Hughes was going to join, uh, deep Purple because he thought he would be singing and playing alongside, um, Paul Rogers, but Burn, you know, the debut album of David Coverdale. It's, and probably a bit like bad company you listen to Burn Today, and it's just, it's a masterpiece Absolutely. For me, Matt, um, I I offer Burn From Deep Purple as my album of the Bees <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:37:40 Yeah. Tremendous. Tremendous. You're absolutely right. From top to Toe, an absolutely marvelous album burn. Might you take your Life mistreated on there, you fall, no one and so on. Songs that were covered by White Snake in the early period of, of, of, uh, of, of their, um, career. But yeah, timeless songs, good stuff,
Speaker 2 00:38:01 And, and a band I know You Love and Yes. And a, and a band that I know you'd love to see if they could ever, if hopefully they'll get back together one day, is the Temperance Movement. And The Temperance Movement brought an album out of some rarities and live tracks, and they actually do a version, a really great version of you full no one with Ian Pace on drums, so, correct. I'll put, if we can put that on the playlist as well too, Matt, because Ian Pace's drumming is great, but the Temperance Movement sound really good on it as well too, so Great, great rock and roll cover of a a Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:38:35 We'll pull the versions on. Yeah, it's such a good song. <laugh> Light Snake, deep Purple TA movement, good stuff. Another B mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which if you know, a rock fan in the seventies and eighties, and now of course, maybe a bit of a comeback, probably for nostalgia reasons is the good old battle jacket. Oh
Speaker 2 00:38:53 No.
Speaker 3 00:38:54 Now I'm never quite sure where they're called battle jackets. But you had, you had one of course, didn't you, Brian, with your, famously with your meatloaf bat outta hell.
Speaker 2 00:39:02 Oh, hi Rock. I was
Speaker 3 00:39:04 <laugh>. Um, another, another amazing b album, the Bat Out of Hell album, of course. But yeah, your, um, your famous, um, he found that jacket yet Brian
Speaker 2 00:39:12 No
Speaker 3 00:39:13 Thank, but when he went to see it mum
Speaker 3 00:39:17 Birthday mate. Okay. We look forward to that. Um, yeah, the, an old battle jacket, I'm not sure we used to call 'em that cutoff denim back in the day, or, um, just denim jacket, but of course a dawn with patches and, and painting and embroidery and so on. You, I remember being very creative in the early days with the old needle and thread and uh, and then painting and obviously then embellishing it with patches and studs and everything. But, um, they become quite an art form now, needless to say, with the arms cut off, but I don't think the arms cut off is a is is compulsory. Um, did you have your arms cut off Brian, the
Speaker 2 00:39:51 Arms? I didn't. My no, I I I I was gonna ask you, you know, w w was a battle jacket. Was it? Was it arms off or Arms on?
Speaker 3 00:40:00 I think it's either. Oh, okay. I think it's either, I think because, cause the arms give you more hatch territory
Speaker 2 00:40:08 To exploit and wear it over your leather jacket. That to me, battle jackets over your leather jacket.
Speaker 3 00:40:13 Yeah, yeah. But, um, I dunno why it's called battle jacket, because most rock people and, and heavy metal people are very placid. But I guess you're going into, into battle and, you know, with the concert, and, uh, as I've said many times when I used to go in, it was a bit of a fight sometimes to get my hair, and I was in row three and my hair was in row 33. That was a bit of a battle trying, you know, hold my hair. But those days have gone right.
Speaker 2 00:40:41 They, they have, they
Speaker 3 00:40:42 Have they good old batter to, to be combined quite often with your bullet belt.
Speaker 2 00:40:46 Oh, of course.
Speaker 3 00:40:47 I had a bullet belt. Um, I'll tell you quick story. I wore it to a party once and uh, for some reason must have been about 15. And, uh, leaning, lean lent up against, uh, someone's fridge in the kitchen. Cause all cause all good parties in those days took place in the kitchen. Some reason, no matter how big the rest of the house was, Evon was in the kitchen. Um, and, um, yeah, I managed to scratch the gouge bullet marks into the top of this lovely hot point fridge, which, um, yeah, I did get, uh, I did get mentioned afterwards,
Speaker 2 00:41:20 <laugh>,
Speaker 3 00:41:20 I think, I think the parents let me off. God bless them. So yeah, I, I wore metal jackets and bullet belts.
Speaker 2 00:41:26 I wore a bullet belt once Matthew, did you? I did, I wore it at the sixth form Christmas concert when I was playing in the school band, and I wore a pair of fake leather trousers with a bullet belt and Wow. And, and it, it, it wasn't my finest look, thankfully there isn't any, um, footy of it. And I had a Fender stratocaster and I was petrified Matt of, of scoring the back of my
Speaker 3 00:41:59 Sit and fight yourself. <laugh> the leather Charles trousers.
Speaker 2 00:42:02 Exactly. So, yeah. But, but do you know what, if you want, if you want one for your birthday mates, I can get you one from 9 99 and Epsy.
Speaker 3 00:42:10 I'm, I'm, I'm fine. Are you sure, <laugh>? Yeah, no, I'll survive. So that's it. That's it for the Bees.
Speaker 2 00:42:18 Bees, yes.
Speaker 3 00:42:19 Notable mentions, of course, Bonjovi, we've mentioned that a few times. Got Bonjovi Boston, the city, the band, the city has spawned Extreme and Aerosmith of course. Yeah. Um, various other bands with black in their title. Blackstone Cherry Black Country, commun Communion Black Star Riders. Glad We Smoke. Oh my goodness. The Color Black is obviously ubiquitous throughout Rock,
Speaker 2 00:42:46 As you mentioned. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 00:42:48 Budgie
Speaker 2 00:42:48 Backman River Drive.
Speaker 3 00:42:50 Yes. B t o. We'll put a few there non You ain't seen Nothing yet. Songs on the old playlist. Of course.
Speaker 2 00:42:59 And let's not forget the First Lady of Rock, in my opinion. Pat Benter.
Speaker 3 00:43:05 Yes. Amazing. Oh, I could sense this playlist is gonna be amazing. We'll put some back Pat Benita stuff on there as well. So that was it. Yep. Next time it's gonna be the letter
Speaker 2 00:43:17 C.
Speaker 3 00:43:18 Yes. Brought to you by the letter C
Speaker 2 00:43:21 Still Matthew.
Speaker 3 00:43:23 Yes.
Speaker 2 00:43:23 We come to the final chapter in this episode of, for those about De Pod Weis <unk> and we cannot finish the show without hidden
Speaker 3 00:43:36 Gem eyes. Yes. Thanks later. That was great. Just like every other child
Speaker 2 00:43:43 E Exactly, exactly. Although I do try to get my vocal on it, but you, you never alert me, you
Speaker 3 00:43:49 Know. No, please don't. Please don't pry.
Speaker 2 00:43:50 Okay. So my hidden gem Matthew, for this episode is a band that we will see early on the bill at the Stale House Festival this year, on the Saturday, no late. And they're gonna be playing at midday. They've been quite specific. It's a wonderful band called Austin Gold. So
Speaker 3 00:44:15 Austin Powers,
Speaker 2 00:44:16 No <laugh>, Austin Gold <laugh>. So Austin Gold, they've played, they've, they've played at Rambling Man. Um, classic Rock has given them some, uh, great reviews in the past. They released, I don't don't know how we missed it last year, uh, they released, um, an album last year called Those City Lights. And I've been listening to one of the last singles off the album, which is called Mountain, and just took me into their new album. It's in that, it's in that lovely southern rock, uh, feel, you know, uh, there's so much great music about, about it at the moment that, you know, the likes of the Karma Effect. You know, you turn me on to Dirty Honey, but, um, check out everybody, the album, uh, a real great hidden gem, those city lights from Austin Gold, who will be playing at the SteelHouse Festival this year on the Saturday. So we will see them mi mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 00:45:16 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Looking forward to it. Yeah, I've heard a few, few, few songs of theirs. Uh, yeah, they're good, aren't they? Mm-hmm. Really good. Um, yeah, looking forward to seeing them midday. That's it. What do you make it <laugh> midday? You know what you are like,
Speaker 2 00:45:31 As long as you don't make me go to the disco on Friday night,
Speaker 3 00:45:36 I promise
Speaker 2 00:45:36 That. Okay. All right.
Speaker 3 00:45:37 But, uh, yeah, we should be all right for midday. No, it's a good shout. Mm-hmm. Good shout. I'll check out, put some songs on the, uh, on the plays. Austin Gold, of course not Palace. Um, so, uh, I've got another book, actually. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:45:49 Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 00:45:50 I am prolific. I should have saved this for a book Club of Rock, but I'm gonna go with it anyway. So do you remember Kelvin, our, um, our social media guru? Yeah. Estw social media guru. Good help. Kelvin. Well, he, he made this, he gave me this recommendation, uh, little while ago, and I, I remembered it and I, um, I, I, I've been reading it recently. I haven't quite finished it, but, um, it's an excellent book. Uh, it's called, um, never A Dull Moment, the story of 1971. Rocks, Rock's Golden Year. Now, um, many may argue, and many of many people have got their own, uh, personal view of rock's. Golden Year for me, it was 1980, uh, for you it's probably 85, 86 Bri. Yeah. But this, this, um, this is written by David Hepworth, who turned 21 in, um, 1971. Um, and, um, it's a really good read.
Speaker 3 00:46:40 It deals with, um, uh, a lot of the, uh, a lot of the bands, a lot of releases, all ge, all genres that were released in 1971 from The Stones, rod Stewart, Carol King, and so on. And explores a lot of the events, uh, of that year. Um, a lot of what was going on in the world. And, uh, it's a really, really good read. It's, as I say, it's excellently written by David Hepworth, who's a, who was a very well known, very respected journalist, and, um, yeah, I simple as that. Recommend it. It's available on, um, on Amazon. Um, got some great reviews and I will add to those reviews because it is a really, really good book. So, 1971, never A Dull Moment by David Hepworth. Check it out, boys and Girls.
Speaker 2 00:47:26 Fabulous recommendation. Um, Matt, really good. And David Hepworth as well, too. Um, as much as writing the books, um, if you go into, well, you know, um, well stocked, um, record stores as well too, um, for some of the years that David has looked at, he does, um, supporting albums as well too, which go along with the book as well. So yeah. Great. Shout 1971. Fabulous.
Speaker 3 00:47:57 It, the end of another episode, episode 45. Dan, enjoy that.
Speaker 2 00:48:03 I thought it was Fab. I'm desperate. I want to get through to episode 50 at some point, Matt. Cause then we can do the top 50 albums that are 50 years old.
Speaker 3 00:48:15 Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, we should do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:48:17 Do you think anybody would notice if we skipped to episode 50 at the next episode?
Speaker 3 00:48:22 Yeah, I think that would, yeah. <laugh>, I, I would <laugh>, um, I'd like to do things in order. Right, okay. As we know with the eights that are Brock.
Speaker 2 00:48:31 Okay. Okay. Fair
Speaker 3 00:48:32 Enough. Let's see it. Thanks for listening, everyone. Yeah. We'll see you next time and, uh, take care of yourselves. Be good to each other. And, uh,
Speaker 2 00:48:39 We're on old usual social media channels, so you'll get us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. Um, yeah, check us out. And thanks again for everybody who donated to Shelter and for our Price Fund winners. We'll get all of your presence off to you very soon, and we'll do one in the very near future as well too. So thanks for supporting that. We will saw you all next time. Bye for now.
Speaker 3 00:49:06 Bye everyone. Bye. Salute you. Is Aion.
